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From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>,
	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 tip 6/9] samples: bpf: simple non-portable kprobe filter example
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2015 10:23:04 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55104BF8.8000606@plumgrid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150323072929.GB25184@gmail.com>

On 3/23/15 12:29 AM, Ingo Molnar wrote:
>
>> **                                                      **
>> ** This means that this is a DEBUG kernel and it is     **
>> ** unsafe for production use.                           **
>
> But I think printing that it's unsafe for production use is over the
> top: it's up to the admin whether it's safe or unsafe, just like
> inserting a kprobe can be safe or unsafe.
>
> Informing that something happened is enough.

Well that is Steven's banner and I agree that it's a bit extreme.
I think it's done on purpose to scary people away from using
trace_printk() for anything other than debug.
It applies to both native trace_printk() for kernel debugging and
for bpf_trace_printk() for debugging of bpf programs.
I don't have a strong opinion about native case, but for bpf I do want
this banner to be scary. Otherwise it's too easy to start using
bpf_trace_printk() to pass event notifications to user space.
bpf_trace_printk and trace_pipe parsing shouldn't be used as a way
to communicate between programs and user space.
At the end, in actual production use, bpf programs won't be using it
and no banner will be seen.
Anyway, I don't think I can change this banner in this patch set.
If we decide to relax it, it should be done via Steven's tree.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-23 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-20 23:30 [PATCH v9 tip 0/9] tracing: attach eBPF programs to kprobes Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 1/9] bpf: make internal bpf API independent of CONFIG_BPF_SYSCALL ifdefs Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-21 12:16   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 2/9] tracing: add kprobe flag Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-21 12:16   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 3/9] tracing: attach BPF programs to kprobes Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-21 12:14   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-21 16:02     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-22 10:06       ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-22 18:03         ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-23  2:17           ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-23  4:57             ` bpf+tracing next steps. Was: " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-23  9:27               ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-25  0:40                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-25 12:07                   ` Masami Hiramatsu
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 4/9] tracing: allow BPF programs to call bpf_ktime_get_ns() Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 5/9] tracing: allow BPF programs to call bpf_trace_printk() Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-22 11:10   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-22 18:05     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 6/9] samples: bpf: simple non-portable kprobe filter example Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-23  7:29   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 17:23     ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2015-03-23  7:35   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 17:32     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 7/9] samples: bpf: counting example for kfree_skb and write syscall Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 8/9] samples: bpf: IO latency analysis (iosnoop/heatmap) Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-23  7:40   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-03-23 17:41     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-20 23:30 ` [PATCH v9 tip 9/9] samples: bpf: kmem_alloc/free tracker Alexei Starovoitov
2015-03-21  4:08 ` [PATCH v9 tip 0/9] tracing: attach eBPF programs to kprobes Steven Rostedt
2015-03-23  7:36   ` Ingo Molnar

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