From: Michael Wang <yun.wang@profitbricks.com>
To: "ira.weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>, Liran Liss <liranl@mellanox.com>
Cc: Roland Dreier <roland@kernel.org>,
Sean Hefty <sean.hefty@intel.com>,
Hal Rosenstock <hal.rosenstock@gmail.com>,
"linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"hal@dev.mellanox.co.il" <hal@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Tom Tucker <tom@opengridcomputing.com>,
Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>,
Hoang-Nam Nguyen <hnguyen@de.ibm.com>,
"raisch@de.ibm.com" <raisch@de.ibm.com>,
Mike Marciniszyn <infinipath@intel.com>,
Eli Cohen <eli@mellanox.com>,
Faisal Latif <faisal.latif@intel.com>,
Jack Morgenstein <jackm@dev.mellanox.co.il>,
Or Gerlitz <ogerlitz@mellanox.com>,
Haggai Eran <haggaie@mellanox.com>, Tom Talpey <tom@talpey.com>,
Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>,
Doug Ledford <dledford@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2015 10:32:36 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55375CA4.2050606@profitbricks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150422024123.GA18675@phlsvsds.ph.intel.com>
On 04/22/2015 04:41 AM, ira.weiny wrote:
[snip]
>
>>
>> 5) Do no modify phys_state_show() in [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs
>> It *is* the link layer!
>
> I agree with this. When the Link Layer is directly being requested we should
> report the link layer. However, the internal uses of Link Layer should be
> minimal if not 0.
Reform on link_layer_show() and ib_uverbs_query_port() Will be
dropped in next version :-)
Regards,
Michael Wang
>
>>
>> 6) Remove cap_read_multi_sge
>> It is not device/port feature, but a transport capability.
>> Use rdma_is_iwarp_transport() instead, or introduce a new transport flag in 'enum ib_device_cap_flags'.
>
> This was already debated and we settled on cap_read_multi_sge. Checking the
> transport does not allow for other verbs devices to support this unless they set
> that same transport.
>
>>
>> 7) Remove [PATCH v5 25/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah().
>> Address handles that refer to Ethernet links always have Ethernet addressing.
>
> But how does the upper level code _know_ that? That is the point of
> cap_eth_ah.
>
>>
>> In the CMA code, using rdma_tech_iboe() is just fine. This is how you define cap_eth_ah() anyway.
>> Currently, this patch just adds clutter.
>>
>> 8) Remove patch [PATCH v5 26/27] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe().
>> We do need a transport qualifier, as exemplified in comment 5) above, and for a complete clean model.
>
> I'm confused, comment 5 was talking about Link Layer???
>
>> This is after renaming the function to rdma_is_ib_transport()...
>>
>>
>> Putting it all together
>> ==================
>>
>> We are left with the following helpers:
>> - rdma_is_ib_transport()
>> - rdma_is_iwarp_transport()
>> - rdma_is_usnic_transport()
>> - rdma_is_iboe()
>> - rdma_has_mad()
>
> Not sufficient to distinguish OPA MADs from IB
>
>> - rdma_has_smi()
>> - rdma_has_gsi() - complements smi; can be used by the mad code for clarity
>> - rdma_has_sa()
>> - rdma_has_cm()
>
> Not sufficient to distinguish between the IB CM and iWarp "CM".
>
>> - rdma_has_mcast()
>
> Not sufficient to distinguish between the IB Multicast vs IBoE Multicast.
>
>
> In general I'm flexible on the function names. "cap" vs "rdma" does not really
> matter to me. Likewise "has" vs "requires" vs "uses" does not matter.
>
> Regardless we still need more granularity than "Transport" and "Link Layer" for many
> of the code choices.
>
> The result of this series is pretty explicit and much cleaner as to what the
> upper layers are really checking for.
>
> Furthermore we know that the implementations are going to change going forward.
> The point of this series is to decouple the MAD, CM, SA, IPoIB, etc modules
> from the knowledge of transport and link layer. The new interface is simply
> using the old implementation as a stepping stone.
>
> Ira
>
>>
>>
>>> Subject: [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers
>>>
>>>
>>> Since v4:
>>> * Thanks for the comments from Hal, Sean, Tom, Or Gerlitz, Jason,
>>> Roland, Ira and Steve :-) Please remind me if anything missed :-P
>>> * Fix logical issue inside 3#, 14#
>>> * Refine 3#, 4#, 5# with label 'free'
>>> * Rework 10# to stop using port 1 when port already assigned
>>>
>>> There are plenty of lengthy code to check the transport type of IB device, or
>>> the link layer type of it's port, but actually we are just speculating whether a
>>> particular management/feature is supported by the device/port.
>>>
>>> Thus instead of inferring, we should have our own mechanism for IB
>>> management capability/protocol/feature checking, several proposals below.
>>>
>>> This patch set will reform the method of getting transport type, we will now
>>> using query_transport() instead of inferring from transport and link layer
>>> respectively, also we defined the new transport type to make the concept
>>> more reasonable.
>>>
>>> Mapping List:
>>> node-type link-layer old-transport new-transport
>>> nes RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP
>>> amso1100 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP
>>> cxgb3 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP
>>> cxgb4 RNIC ETH IWARP IWARP
>>> usnic USNIC_UDP ETH USNIC_UDP USNIC_UDP
>>> ocrdma IB_CA ETH IB IBOE
>>> mlx4 IB_CA IB/ETH IB IB/IBOE
>>> mlx5 IB_CA IB IB IB
>>> ehca IB_CA IB IB IB
>>> ipath IB_CA IB IB IB
>>> mthca IB_CA IB IB IB
>>> qib IB_CA IB IB IB
>>>
>>> For example:
>>> if (transport == IB) && (link-layer == ETH) will now become:
>>> if (query_transport() == IBOE)
>>>
>>> Thus we will be able to get rid of the respective transport and link-layer
>>> checking, and it will help us to add new protocol/Technology (like OPA) more
>>> easier, also with the introduced management helpers, IB management logical
>>> will be more clear and easier for extending.
>>>
>>> Highlights:
>>> The patch set covered a wide range of IB stuff, thus for those who are
>>> familiar with the particular part, your suggestion would be invaluable ;-)
>>>
>>> Patch 1#~15# included all the logical reform, 16#~25# introduced the
>>> management helpers, 26#~27# do clean up.
>>>
>>> Patches haven't been tested yet, we appreciate if any one who have these
>>> HW willing to provide his Tested-by :-)
>>>
>>> Doug suggested the bitmask mechanism:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-
>>> rdma@vger.kernel.org/msg23765.html
>>> which could be the plan for future reforming, we prefer that to be another
>>> series which focus on semantic and performance.
>>>
>>> This patch-set is somewhat 'bloated' now and it may be a good timing for
>>> staging, I'd like to suggest we focus on improving existed helpers and push
>>> all the further reforms into next series ;-)
>>>
>>> Proposals:
>>> Sean:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-
>>> rdma@vger.kernel.org/msg23339.html
>>> Doug:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-
>>> rdma@vger.kernel.org/msg23418.html
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-
>>> rdma@vger.kernel.org/msg23765.html
>>> Jason:
>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/linux-
>>> rdma@vger.kernel.org/msg23425.html
>>>
>>> Michael Wang (27):
>>> IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport()
>>> IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform mcast related part in IB-core cma
>>> IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr'
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev()
>>> IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib()
>>> IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah()
>>> IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe()
>>> IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport()
>>>
>>> ---
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/agent.c | 4
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/cm.c | 26 +-
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/cma.c | 328 ++++++++++++---------------
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/device.c | 1
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/mad.c | 51 ++--
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/multicast.c | 18 -
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/sa_query.c | 41 +--
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/sysfs.c | 8
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/ucm.c | 5
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/ucma.c | 27 --
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/user_mad.c | 32 +-
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/uverbs_cmd.c | 6
>>> drivers/infiniband/core/verbs.c | 33 --
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/amso1100/c2_provider.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb3/iwch_provider.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/cxgb4/provider.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_hca.c | 6
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_iverbs.h | 3
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ehca/ehca_main.c | 1
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ipath/ipath_verbs.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx4/main.c | 10
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/mlx5/main.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/mthca/mthca_provider.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/nes/nes_verbs.c | 6
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_main.c | 1
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_verbs.c | 6
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/ocrdma/ocrdma_verbs.h | 3
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/qib/qib_verbs.c | 7
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_main.c | 1
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_verbs.c | 6
>>> drivers/infiniband/hw/usnic/usnic_ib_verbs.h | 2
>>> drivers/infiniband/ulp/ipoib/ipoib_main.c | 17 -
>>> include/rdma/ib_verbs.h | 204 +++++++++++++++-
>>> net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma_recvfrom.c | 6
>>> net/sunrpc/xprtrdma/svc_rdma_transport.c | 51 +---
>>> 35 files changed, 584 insertions(+), 368 deletions(-)
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Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-20 8:28 [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:32 ` [PATCH v5 01/27] IB/Verbs: Implement new callback query_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:04 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 15:02 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 15:21 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-22 16:22 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:42 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-23 7:13 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:32 ` [PATCH v5 02/27] IB/Verbs: Implement raw management helpers Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:33 ` [PATCH v5 03/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core mad/agent/user_mad Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:33 ` [PATCH v5 04/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core cm Michael Wang
2015-04-20 17:04 ` Hal Rosenstock
2015-04-21 7:42 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:34 ` [PATCH v5 05/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core sa_query Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:05 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:34 ` [PATCH v5 06/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core multicast Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:35 ` [PATCH v5 07/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp ipoib Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:35 ` [PATCH v5 08/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-ulp xprtrdma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:06 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:36 ` [PATCH v5 09/27] IB/Verbs: Reform IB-core verbs/uverbs_cmd/sysfs Michael Wang
2015-04-21 23:19 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 7:38 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:28 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23 9:25 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:36 ` [PATCH v5 10/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cm related part in IB-core cma/ucm Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 11/27] IB/Verbs: Reform route related part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:37 ` [PATCH v5 12/27] IB/Verbs: Reform mcast " Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:07 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 13/27] IB/Verbs: Reserve legacy transport type in 'dev_addr' Michael Wang
2015-04-21 5:58 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 8:05 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 14/27] IB/Verbs: Reform cma_acquire_dev() Michael Wang
2015-04-21 6:15 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 8:08 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:38 ` [PATCH v5 15/27] IB/Verbs: Reform rest part in IB-core cma Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:08 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:39 ` [PATCH v5 16/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mad() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:39 ` [PATCH v5 17/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_smi() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 18/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:09 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 19/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_iw_cm() Michael Wang
2015-04-20 14:00 ` Steve Wise
2015-04-20 15:16 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 15:51 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-20 16:19 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-20 16:39 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-21 7:39 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 15:06 ` Tom Tucker
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:40 ` [PATCH v5 20/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_sa() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:41 ` [PATCH v5 21/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ib_mcast() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:41 ` [PATCH v5 22/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_ipoib() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 5:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-22 8:49 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:45 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:54 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-23 9:31 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 17:24 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-23 7:53 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-20 8:42 ` [PATCH v5 23/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_read_multi_sge() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:42 ` [PATCH v5 24/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_af_ib() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 25/27] IB/Verbs: Use management helper cap_eth_ah() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:11 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 26/27] IB/Verbs: Clean up rdma_ib_or_iboe() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:12 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-20 8:43 ` [PATCH v5 27/27] IB/Verbs: Cleanup rdma_node_get_transport() Michael Wang
2015-04-22 0:13 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-21 5:41 ` [PATCH v5 00/27] IB/Verbs: IB Management Helpers Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 7:46 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 11:03 ` Devesh Sharma
2015-04-21 15:56 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-21 23:36 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 2:41 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 8:32 ` Michael Wang [this message]
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2015-04-22 16:40 ` Jason Gunthorpe
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2015-04-24 16:42 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-27 19:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:40 ` Hefty, Sean
2015-04-24 14:49 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-22 8:30 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 16:16 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-23 7:33 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-24 14:44 ` Liran Liss
2015-04-24 15:07 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-27 19:22 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 14:59 ` Doug Ledford
2015-04-22 16:57 ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-04-23 8:36 ` Michael Wang
2015-04-22 17:10 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-23 9:36 ` Michael Wang
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2015-04-27 20:58 ` ira.weiny
2015-04-22 16:46 ` Dave Goodell (dgoodell)
2015-04-22 0:28 ` ira.weiny
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