From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
To: Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>
Cc: Jason Low <jason.low2@hp.com>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
Mel Gorman <mgorman@suse.de>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
Preeti U Murthy <preeti@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Galbraith <umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com>,
Aswin Chandramouleeswaran <aswin@hp.com>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: Document usages of mm->numa_scan_seq
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2015 16:58:24 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <55429770.2090901@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1430420047.2011.41.camel@stgolabs.net>
On 04/30/2015 02:54 PM, Davidlohr Bueso wrote:
> On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 14:42 -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> On 04/29/2015 02:45 PM, Jason Low wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2015-04-29 at 14:14 -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>>>> On 04/28/2015 04:00 PM, Jason Low wrote:
>>>>> The p->mm->numa_scan_seq is accessed using READ_ONCE/WRITE_ONCE
>>>>> and modified without exclusive access. It is not clear why it is
>>>>> accessed this way. This patch provides some documentation on that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Jason Low<jason.low2@hp.com>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> kernel/sched/fair.c | 12 ++++++++++++
>>>>> 1 files changed, 12 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>>>>>
>>>>> diff --git a/kernel/sched/fair.c b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> index 5a44371..794f7d7 100644
>>>>> --- a/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> +++ b/kernel/sched/fair.c
>>>>> @@ -1794,6 +1794,11 @@ static void task_numa_placement(struct task_struct *p)
>>>>> u64 runtime, period;
>>>>> spinlock_t *group_lock = NULL;
>>>>>
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * The p->mm->numa_scan_seq gets updated without
>>>>> + * exclusive access. Use READ_ONCE() here to ensure
>>>>> + * that the field is read in a single access.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> seq = READ_ONCE(p->mm->numa_scan_seq);
>>>>> if (p->numa_scan_seq == seq)
>>>>> return;
>>>>> @@ -2107,6 +2112,13 @@ void task_numa_fault(int last_cpupid, int mem_node, int pages, int flags)
>>>>>
>>>>> static void reset_ptenuma_scan(struct task_struct *p)
>>>>> {
>>>>> + /*
>>>>> + * We only did a read acquisition of the mmap sem, so
>>>>> + * p->mm->numa_scan_seq is written to without exclusive access.
>>>>> + * That's not much of an issue though, since this is just used
>>>>> + * for statistical sampling. Use WRITE_ONCE and READ_ONCE, which
>>>>> + * are not expensive, to avoid load/store tearing.
>>>>> + */
>>>>> WRITE_ONCE(p->mm->numa_scan_seq, READ_ONCE(p->mm->numa_scan_seq) + 1);
>>>>> p->mm->numa_scan_offset = 0;
>>>>> }
>>>> READ_ONCE followed by a WRITE_ONCE won't stop load/store tearing from
>>>> happening unless you use an atomic instruction to do the increment. So I
>>>> think your comment may be a bit misleading.
>>> Right, the READ and WRITE operations will still be done separately and
>>> won't be atomic. Here, we're saying that this prevents load/store
>>> tearing on each of those individual write/read operations. Please let me
>>> know if you prefer this to be worded differently.
>> I do have a question of what kind of tearing you are talking about. Do
>> you mean the tearing due to mm being changed in the middle of the
>> access? The reason why I don't like this kind of construct is that I am
>> not sure if
>> the address translation p->mm->numa_scan_seq is being done once or
>> twice. I looked at the compiled code and the translation is done only once.
>>
>> Anyway, the purpose of READ_ONCE and WRITE_ONCE is not for eliminating
>> data tearing. They are to make sure that the compiler won't compile away
>> data access and they are done in the order they appear in the program. I
>> don't think it is a good idea to associate tearing elimination with
>> those macros. So I would suggest removing the last sentence in your comment.
> I agree. Related, Linus also had some thoughts about the _very specific_
> purposes of these macros:
> http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-next/msg32494.html
Actually, I don't think modern compiler will reload a read value unless
it runs out of usable registers. It is more likely that it will reuse a
previously read value within the same function if READ_ONCE() isn't there.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-04-30 20:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-04-28 20:00 [PATCH v2 0/5] sched, timer: Improve scalability of itimers Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] sched, timer: Remove usages of ACCESS_ONCE in the scheduler Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:34 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 17:05 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 17:15 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-29 18:25 ` Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Convert usages of ACCESS_ONCE() in the scheduler to READ_ONCE()/WRITE_ONCE() tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: Document usages of mm->numa_scan_seq Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:35 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 18:14 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 18:45 ` Jason Low
2015-04-30 18:42 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-30 18:54 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-04-30 20:58 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2015-04-30 21:26 ` Jason Low
2015-04-30 21:13 ` Jason Low
2015-05-01 0:28 ` [PATCH v3 " Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched/numa: " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-05-01 15:21 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] sched, numa: " Paul E. McKenney
2015-05-01 17:40 ` Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] sched, timer: Use atomics in thread_group_cputimer to improve scalability Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:38 ` Rik van Riel
2015-04-29 20:45 ` Jason Low
2015-04-29 18:43 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-29 20:14 ` Jason Low
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Replace spinlocks with atomics in thread_group_cputimer(), " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-05-08 21:31 ` [PATCH] sched, timer: Fix documentation for 'struct thread_group_cputimer' Jason Low
2015-05-11 6:41 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Fix documentation for ' struct thread_group_cputimer' tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] sched, timer: Provide an atomic task_cputime data structure Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:47 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-08 13:22 ` [tip:sched/core] sched, timer: Provide an atomic ' struct task_cputime' " tip-bot for Jason Low
2015-04-28 20:00 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] sched, timer: Use the atomic task_cputime in thread_group_cputimer Jason Low
2015-04-29 14:48 ` Rik van Riel
2015-05-08 13:23 ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Jason Low
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