From: "Sean" <seanlkml@sympatico.ca>
To: "David Lang" <dlang@digitalinsight.com>
Cc: "Horst von Brand" <vonbrand@inf.utfsm.cl>,
"Parag Warudkar" <kernel-stuff@comcast.net>,
"Dumitru Ciobarcianu" <dumitru.ciobarcianu@ines.ro>,
"Helge Hafting" <helge.hafting@aitel.hist.no>,
"Andi Kleen" <ak@suse.de>, "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@stusta.de>,
"Kyle Moffett" <mrmacman_g4@mac.com>,
akpm@osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, arjan@infradead.org
Subject: Re: [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:12:36 -0500 (EST) [thread overview]
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In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0512200951080.11093@qynat.qvtvafvgr.pbz>
On Tue, December 20, 2005 12:56 pm, David Lang said:
>
> at least one of the 'popular distributions' that switched to 4k stacks
> years ago worked around the problems that it generated by simply lableing
> the portions that didn't work with 4k stacks as 'unsupported by this
> distro' (XFS has been explicitly stated to be in this catagory in these
> discussions)
Times change, the XFS issues have been resolved.
> how many other corner cases are there that these distros just choose not
> to support, but need to be supported and tested for the vanilla kernel?
This is called FUD. If you have examples of a problem go ahead and post
them. *EVERY* change made to the kernel has the potential to cause a
problem. But this one has been carefully scrutinized and it seems that
only people with general notions of FUD remain to object. Nobody seems
to have any real objections any more. YAY!
> also for those who are arguing that it's only dropping from 6k to 4k, you
> are forgetting that the patches to move the interrupts to a seperate stack
> have already gone into the kernel, so today it is really 8k+4k and the
> talk is to move it to 4k+4k.
So what? The point is that if you compare the world from what it was a
few years back with just 8K, now there is just as much stack space,
although it happens to be split in half.
> I think it's a good idea to change the default (especially in -mm) to 4k
> stacks and to schedule a change of the default in mainline for a few
> versions out, but there needs to be a safety net other then telling people
> to downgrade to a prior kernel if they run into problems when the switch
> is made
Of course. If there are problems discovered in -mm with 4K stack (highly
unlikely since its been in production use on several vendor kernals for a
few years) they will be dealt with. But once a reasonable period of time
has passed with no issues, its time to move it into mainline.
Sean
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-12-20 18:12 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 275+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-12-15 21:24 [2.6 patch] i386: always use 4k stacks Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 22:00 ` Andrew Morton
2005-12-15 20:42 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 22:30 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-15 21:07 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:14 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 21:46 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:26 ` Lee Revell
2005-12-15 22:04 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-15 23:36 ` Ismail Donmez
2005-12-16 0:08 ` Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:08:02 +0100
2005-12-15 22:51 ` Jeff V. Merkey
2005-12-16 0:57 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16 0:38 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 14:39 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 14:49 ` Xavier Bestel
2005-12-16 15:01 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 18:42 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-16 18:53 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:53 ` Brian Gerst
2005-12-16 19:02 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:14 ` Oliver Neukum
2005-12-16 18:55 ` Steven Rostedt
2005-12-17 0:16 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19 9:40 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16 19:26 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-16 21:08 ` David Lang
2005-12-16 21:35 ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2005-12-19 9:02 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-16 0:37 ` Ray Lee
2005-12-19 8:55 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-15 23:15 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 0:47 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 0:50 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 2:56 ` Neil Brown
2005-12-16 3:06 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 12:18 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 19:03 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-19 0:45 ` Neil Brown
2005-12-19 1:34 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-19 11:40 ` Jörn Engel
2005-12-16 1:15 ` Nathan Scott
2005-12-16 1:37 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-16 1:49 ` Zwane Mwaikambo
2005-12-16 14:12 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 13:10 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 14:04 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 15:35 ` Diego Calleja
2005-12-16 15:49 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-16 16:23 ` Michael Buesch
2005-12-16 20:02 ` Alan Cox
2005-12-16 20:08 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 18:18 ` Giridhar Pemmasani
2005-12-16 18:36 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 19:32 ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 19:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:28 ` Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 21:49 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-16 21:50 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 22:14 ` Dave Jones
2005-12-17 17:44 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-17 20:16 ` Kyle Moffett
2005-12-17 20:23 ` Paul Rolland
2005-12-17 20:47 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-17 20:52 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 2:35 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18 5:03 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 5:43 ` Andi Kleen
2005-12-18 6:05 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:51 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 15:59 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 11:09 ` Helge Hafting
2005-12-19 16:22 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 17:43 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 19:10 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 19:27 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-19 20:17 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-19 20:34 ` Dumitru Ciobarcianu
2005-12-20 1:24 ` Tue, 20 Dec 2005 02:24:16 +0100
2005-12-20 14:28 ` Horst von Brand
2005-12-20 17:56 ` David Lang
2005-12-20 18:09 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-12-20 18:49 ` David Lang
2005-12-21 11:12 ` Sander
2005-12-21 20:03 ` Jeffrey Hundstad
2005-12-20 18:12 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-12-20 12:58 ` Adrian Bunk
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2005-12-18 15:44 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 12:09 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 15:49 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-18 15:57 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-18 16:04 ` Parag Warudkar
2005-12-16 15:58 ` Adrian Bunk
2005-12-16 16:46 ` Arjan van de Ven
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2005-12-16 17:17 ` Fwd: " Mike Snitzer
2005-12-16 19:59 ` Alan Cox
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2005-11-14 19:00 ` Olivier Galibert
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2005-11-14 2:11 Adrian Bunk
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