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From: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Daniel Wagner <daniel.wagner@bmw-carit.de>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: call_rcu from trace_preempt
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 18:09:56 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <557F7764.5060707@plumgrid.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150615230702.GB3913@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On 6/15/15 4:07 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
>
> Oh...  One important thing is that both call_rcu() and kfree_rcu()
> use per-CPU variables, managing a per-CPU linked list.  This is why
> they disable interrupts.  If you do another call_rcu() in the middle
> of the first one in just the wrong place, you will have two entities
> concurrently manipulating the same linked list, which will not go well.

yes. I'm trying to find that 'wrong place'.
The trace.patch is doing kmalloc/kfree_rcu for every preempt_enable.
So any spin_unlock called by first call_rcu will be triggering
2nd recursive to call_rcu.
But as far as I could understand rcu code that looks ok everywhere.
call_rcu
   debug_rcu_head_[un]queue
     debug_object_activate
       spin_unlock

and debug_rcu_head* seems to be called from safe places
where local_irq is enabled.

> Maybe mark call_rcu() and the things it calls as notrace?  Or you
> could maintain a separate per-CPU linked list that gathered up the
> stuff to be kfree()ed after a grace period, and some time later
> feed them to kfree_rcu()?

yeah, I can think of this or 10 other ways to fix it within
kprobe+bpf area, but I think something like call_rcu_notrace()
may be a better solution.
Or may be single generic 'fix' for call_rcu will be enough if
it doesn't affect all other users.

> The usual consequence of racing a pair of callback insertions on the
> same CPU would be that one of them gets leaked, and possible all
> subsequent callbacks.  So the lockup is no surprise.  And there are a
> lot of other assumptions in nearby code paths about only one execution
> at a time from a given CPU.

yes, I don't think calling 2nd call_rcu from preempt_enable violates
this assumptions. local_irq does it job. No extra stuff is called when
interrupts are disabled.

>> Any advise on where to look is greatly appreciated.
>
> What I don't understand is exactly what you are trying to do.  Have more
> complex tracers that dynamically allocate memory?  If so, having a per-CPU
> list that stages memory to be freed so that it can be passed to call_rcu()
> in a safe environment might make sense.  Of course, that list would need
> to be managed carefully!

yes. We tried to compute the time the kernel spends between
preempt_disable->preempt_enable and plot a histogram of latencies.

> Or am I missing the point of the code below?

this trace.patch is reproducer of call_rcu crashes that doing:
preempt_enable
   trace_preempt_on
     kfree_call_rcu

The real call stack is:
preempt_enable
   trace_preempt_on
     kprobe_int3_handler
       trace_call_bpf
         bpf_map_update_elem
           htab_map_update_elem
             kree_call_rcu


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-16  1:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-15 22:24 call_rcu from trace_preempt Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-15 23:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16  1:09   ` Alexei Starovoitov [this message]
2015-06-16  2:14     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16  5:45       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-16  6:06         ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16  6:25           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-16  6:34             ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16  6:46               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-16  6:54                 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16 12:27         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 12:38           ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16 14:16             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 15:43               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 16:07                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 17:13                   ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16 15:41             ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 15:52               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 17:11               ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-16 17:20             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-16 17:37               ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-17  0:33                 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-17  0:47                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-17  1:04                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-17  1:19                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-17  8:11               ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-17  9:05                 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-17 18:39                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-17 20:37                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-17 20:53                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-17 21:36                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-17 23:58                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-18  0:20                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 15:37           ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 16:05             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 17:14               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-06-16 17:39                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 18:57                   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 19:20                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-16 19:29                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-16 19:34                         ` Paul E. McKenney

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