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From: "Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult" <weigelt@melag.de>
To: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
Cc: "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	"backports@vger.kernel.org" <backports@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Julia Lawall <julia.lawall@lip6.fr>
Subject: Re: Uses of Linux backports in the industry
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 11:55:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <558A7EA3.3040809@melag.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <558A760B.2030600@nod.at>

Am 24.06.2015 um 11:19 schrieb Richard Weinberger:

Hi,

 > Porting PREEMPT_RT is not that easy.
> Did you ever?

I know.

OTOH, is backporting drivers to ancient kernels (where internal APIs
often are _completely_ different) really easier ? Perhaps it might look
so, if it's just one individual driver - but often it doesn't keep this
way, sooner or later other things pop up.

> So, you rewrite all drivers and the board support from scratch?

Sometimes, if I have to. Because - on my own experience - what SoC
vendors provide usually is pretty unusable, just a quick showcase.

Right now, I'm working on a project w/ some imx53-based board.
What freescale provides here is practically unusable. Really ancient
(last time I checked, it was an old 2.6.x), unsable and insecure
(anybody had a closer look at their "kgsl" patch or their gst-plugin ?)

We'll have to drop the whole idea of using the GPUs, due to lack of
support - the existing driver/libgl is known to be broken and insecure,
no support from fsl whatsoever, we're lacking resources for a full
reverse engineering, and moving to another SoC is out of question
(at least for the forseeable future). So, it ends up in having no
GPU, therefore no GL/GSL, therefore no QtQuick/QML.


Pavel already mentioned the correct way to go: chip vendors should
provide proper (mainline'able) patches, or at least full specs.

And I'll add: those who dont, should simply be boycotted.


cu
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-24  9:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-29  2:54 Uses of Linux backports in the industry Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-05-29 14:53 ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-05-29 15:01   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-05-29 17:36     ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-05-29 17:51       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-06-23 18:49       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-24  9:12       ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:09     ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-24  9:19       ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-24  9:55         ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult [this message]
2015-06-24 10:18           ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-01 18:50 ` Felix Fietkau
2015-06-01 20:03   ` Julia Lawall
2015-06-24 10:13   ` Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
2015-06-02 19:05 ` Szymon Janc

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