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From: Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	K Prateek Nayak <kprateek.nayak@amd.com>,
	 "Gautham R . Shenoy" <gautham.shenoy@amd.com>,
	Vincent Guittot <vincent.guittot@linaro.org>,
	Chen Yu <yu.c.chen@intel.com>,
	 Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
	Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>,
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	Adam Li	 <adamli@os.amperecomputing.com>,
	Aaron Lu <ziqianlu@bytedance.com>,
	Tim Chen	 <tim.c.chen@intel.com>, Josh Don <joshdon@google.com>,
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	Qais Yousef <qyousef@layalina.io>,
	Libo Chen	 <libchen@purestorage.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Patch v4 18/22] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 2026 12:39:59 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55905b3624a2e36c3af3dc919909e2f199cd00fb.camel@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260409133754.GD3126523@noisy.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Thu, 2026-04-09 at 15:37 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2026 at 02:52:30PM -0700, Tim Chen wrote:
> 
> > diff --git a/kernel/sched/topology.c b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> > index 995a42cb4697..0b1fc1b0709d 100644
> > --- a/kernel/sched/topology.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/topology.c
> > @@ -809,6 +809,7 @@ enum s_alloc {
> >  };
> >  
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_SCHED_CACHE
> > +DEFINE_STATIC_KEY_FALSE(sched_cache_present);
> >  static bool alloc_sd_llc(const struct cpumask *cpu_map,
> >  			 struct s_data *d)
> >  {
> > @@ -2674,6 +2675,7 @@ static int
> >  build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *attr)
> >  {
> >  	enum s_alloc alloc_state = sa_none;
> > +	bool has_multi_llcs = false;
> >  	struct sched_domain *sd;
> >  	struct s_data d;
> >  	struct rq *rq = NULL;
> > @@ -2784,10 +2786,12 @@ build_sched_domains(const struct cpumask *cpu_map, struct sched_domain_attr *att
> >  				 * between LLCs and memory channels.
> >  				 */
> >  				nr_llcs = sd->span_weight / child->span_weight;
> > -				if (nr_llcs == 1)
> > +				if (nr_llcs == 1) {
> >  					imb = sd->span_weight >> 3;
> > -				else
> > +				} else {
> >  					imb = nr_llcs;
> > +					has_multi_llcs = true;
> > +				}
> >  				imb = max(1U, imb);
> >  				sd->imb_numa_nr = imb;
> >  
> 
> Well that all don't apply :/
> 
> Also, this seems sub-optimal, we can have multi-llc without NUMA.
> 
> Doesn't the LLC domain having a parent more or less imply there being
> multiple and we should be doing this, irrespective of having NUMA?

If we have NUMA and single LLC, original thought was that NUMA balancing
would be taking care of moving the tasks to preferred node. And that's
why we thought it is not necessary to enable cache aware scheduling for
that case. Yes, if there's no NUMA and we have a parent group for LLCs,
agree that we should enable it.

Tim

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-09 19:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-04-01 21:52 [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 01/22] sched/cache: Introduce infrastructure for cache-aware load balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:41   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:21     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-09 23:00       ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 02/22] sched/cache: Limit the scan number of CPUs when calculating task occupancy Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:17   ` Luo Gengkun
2026-04-09 13:41     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 03/22] sched/cache: Record per LLC utilization to guide cache aware scheduling decisions Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 04/22] sched/cache: Introduce helper functions to enforce LLC migration policy Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 05/22] sched/cache: Make LLC id continuous Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 06/22] sched/cache: Assign preferred LLC ID to processes Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 07/22] sched/cache: Track LLC-preferred tasks per runqueue Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 08/22] sched/cache: Introduce per CPU's tasks LLC preference counter Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 09/22] sched/cache: Calculate the percpu sd task LLC preference Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 10/22] sched/cache: Count tasks prefering destination LLC in a sched group Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 11/22] sched/cache: Check local_group only once in update_sg_lb_stats() Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 12/22] sched/cache: Prioritize tasks preferring destination LLC during balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 13/22] sched/cache: Add migrate_llc_task migration type for cache-aware balancing Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 14/22] sched/cache: Handle moving single tasks to/from their preferred LLC Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 15/22] sched/cache: Respect LLC preference in task migration and detach Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 16/22] sched/cache: Disable cache aware scheduling for processes with high thread counts Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:27     ` Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 17/22] sched/cache: Avoid cache-aware scheduling for memory-heavy processes Tim Chen
2026-04-09 12:46   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 12:55     ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 18/22] sched/cache: Enable cache aware scheduling for multi LLCs NUMA node Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 19:39     ` Tim Chen [this message]
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 19/22] sched/cache: Allow the user space to turn on and off cache aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 20/22] sched/cache: Add user control to adjust the aggressiveness of cache-aware scheduling Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 21/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Display the per LLC occupancy for each process via proc fs Tim Chen
2026-04-01 21:52 ` [Patch v4 22/22] -- DO NOT APPLY!!! -- sched/cache/debug: Add ftrace to track the load balance statistics Tim Chen
2026-04-09 13:54 ` [Patch v4 00/22] Cache aware scheduling Peter Zijlstra
2026-04-09 20:02   ` Tim Chen

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