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From: "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@huawei.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: kaixu xia <xiakaixu@huawei.com>, <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	<davem@davemloft.net>, <acme@kernel.org>, <mingo@redhat.com>,
	<masami.hiramatsu.pt@hitachi.com>, <jolsa@kernel.org>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, <pi3orama@163.com>,
	<hekuang@huawei.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 5/6] bpf: Implement function bpf_read_pmu() that get the selected hardware PMU conuter
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:27:43 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55A8F4BF.3020902@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150717121836.GH19282@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>



On 2015/7/17 20:18, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 08:01:07PM +0800, Wangnan (F) wrote:
>>
>> On 2015/7/17 19:56, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 01:55:05PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 07:45:02PM +0800, Wangnan (F) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Depends on what all you need, if you need full perf events to work then
>>>>>> yes perf_event_read_value() is your only option.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But note that that requires scheduling, so you cannot actually use it
>>>>>> for tracing purposes etc..
>>>>> What you mean "full perf events"? Even with your code some event still not
>>>>> work?
>>>> The code I posted only works for events that do not have inherit set.
>>>> And only works from IRQ/NMI context for events that monitor the current
>>>> task or the current CPU (although that needs a little extra code still).
>>>>
>>>> Anything else and it does not work (correctly).
>>> Scratch that from NMI, for that to work we need more magic still.
>> The scheduling you said is caused by
>>
>> mutex_lock(&event->child_mutex)
>>
>> right?
>>
>> What about replacing it to mutex_trylock() and simply return an error
>> if it read from a BPF program?
> That is vile and unreliable.
>
> I think you really want to put very strict limits on what kind of events
> you accept, or create the events yourself.
>
I think we can check the limitation in BPF program. What about this:

  event must on current CPU or must be on current process. If not,
  bpf_read_pmu() should simply return an error.

With current design it is easy to implement, and users can still control
it through bpf map.

But what if we really want cross-cpu PMU accessing? Impossible?

Thank you.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-17 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-17 10:43 [RFC PATCH 0/6] bpf: Introduce the new ability of eBPF programs to access hardware PMU counter kaixu xia
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] bpf: Add new flags that specify the value type stored in map kaixu xia
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] bpf: Add function map->ops->map_traverse_elem() to traverse map elems kaixu xia
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] bpf: Save the pointer to struct perf_event to map kaixu xia
2015-07-17 11:06   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 11:21     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 11:34       ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 11:40         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 11:54           ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 12:02             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:07               ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 11:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] bpf: Add a bpf program function argument constraint for PMU map kaixu xia
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] bpf: Implement function bpf_read_pmu() that get the selected hardware PMU conuter kaixu xia
2015-07-17 11:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 11:29     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 11:39       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 11:45         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 11:55           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 11:56             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:01               ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 12:04                 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17 12:18                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:27                   ` Wangnan (F) [this message]
2015-07-17 12:45                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:46                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 12:57                       ` pi3orama
2015-07-17 13:26                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 13:45                           ` pi3orama
2015-07-17 11:33     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-17 10:43 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] samples/bpf: example of get selected PMU counter value kaixu xia
2015-07-17 22:56 ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] bpf: Introduce the new ability of eBPF programs to access hardware PMU counter Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-17 23:27   ` pi3orama
2015-07-18  0:42     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-18  1:02       ` pi3orama
2015-07-18  1:22         ` Alexei Starovoitov

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