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From: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	"security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>, Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
	stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>, Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt synchronous
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2015 01:49:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55AEE8A7.4040904@citrix.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrU=zBpP52et6OUUiZfgya6NB6vxZAHh9VS4r0g4pfeZVA@mail.gmail.com>

On 22/07/2015 01:28, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Andrew Cooper
> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>> On 22/07/2015 01:07, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Andrew Cooper
>>> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>> On 21/07/2015 22:53, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>> On 07/21/2015 03:59 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu_context.h
>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu_context.h
>>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,44 @@ static inline void load_mm_cr4(struct mm_struct
>>>>>> *mm) {}
>>>>>>   #endif
>>>>>>     /*
>>>>>> + * ldt_structs can be allocated, used, and freed, but they are never
>>>>>> + * modified while live.
>>>>>> + */
>>>>>> +struct ldt_struct {
>>>>>> +    int size;
>>>>>> +    int __pad;    /* keep the descriptors naturally aligned. */
>>>>>> +    struct desc_struct entries[];
>>>>>> +};
>>>>>
>>>>> This breaks Xen which expects LDT to be page-aligned. Not sure why.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jan, Andrew?
>>>> PV guests are not permitted to have writeable mappings to the frames
>>>> making up the GDT and LDT, so it cannot make unaudited changes to
>>>> loadable descriptors.  In particular, for a 32bit PV guest, it is only
>>>> the segment limit which protects Xen from the ring1 guest kernel.
>>>>
>>>> A lot of this code hasn't been touched in years, and it certainly
>>>> predates me.  The alignment requirement appears to come from the virtual
>>>> region Xen uses to map the guests GDT and LDT.  Strict alignment is
>>>> required for the GDT so Xen's descriptors starting at 0xe0xx are
>>>> correct, but the LDT alignment seems to be a side effect of similar
>>>> codepaths.
>>>>
>>>> For an LDT smaller than 8192 entries, I can't see any specific reason
>>>> for enforcing alignment, other than "that's the way it has always been".
>>>>
>>>> However, the guest would still have to relinquish write access to all
>>>> frames which make up the LDT, which looks to be a bit of an issue given
>>>> the snippet above.
>>> Does the LDT itself need to be aligned or just the address passed to
>>> paravirt_alloc_ldt?
>> The address which Xen receives needs to be aligned.
>>
>> It looks like xen_alloc_ldt() blindly assumes that the desc_struct *ldt
>> it is passed is page aligned, and passes it straight through.
> xen_alloc_ldt is just fiddling with protection though, I think.  Isn't
> it xen_set_ldt that's the meat?  We could easily pass xen_alloc_ldt a
> pointer to the ldt_struct.

So it is.  It is the linear_addr in xen_set_ldt() which Xen currently
audits to be page aligned.

>>>> This will allow ldt_struct itself to be page aligned, and for the size
>>>> field to sit across the base/limit field of what would logically be
>>>> selector 0x0008  There would be some issues accessing size.  To load
>>>> frames as an LDT, a guest must drop all refs to the page so that its
>>>> type may be changed from writeable to segdesc.  After that, an
>>>> update_descriptor hypercall can be used to change size, and I believe
>>>> the guest may subsequently recreate read-only mappings to the frames in
>>>> question (although frankly it is getting late so you will want to double
>>>> check all of this).
>>>>
>>>> Anyhow, this looks like an issue which should be fixed up with slightly
>>>> more PVOps, rather than enforcing a Xen view of the world on native Linux.
>>>>
>>> I could presumably make the allocation the other way around so the
>>> size is at the end.  I could even use two separate allocations if
>>> needed.
>> I suspect two separate allocations would be the better solution, as it
>> means that the size field doesn't need to be subject to funny page
>> permissions.
> True.  OTOH we never write to the size field after allocating the thing.

Right, but even reading it is going to cause problems if one of the
paravirt ops can't re-establish ro mappings.

~Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-22  0:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-21 19:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt synchronous Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 21:53   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-21 23:38     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-22  0:07       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  0:21         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-22  0:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  0:49             ` Andrew Cooper [this message]
2015-07-22  1:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:04               ` [Xen-devel] " Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-22  2:13                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:01   ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  2:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:53       ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  4:22         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:20   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-21 20:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:28   ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-21 20:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:54       ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  6:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-22  6:23         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  6:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-22 18:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22 12:34           ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/x86, x86/ldt: Add a selftest for modify_ldt Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 22:02   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-21 22:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 23:36   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-21 23:40     ` Andy Lutomirski

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