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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "security@kernel.org" <security@kernel.org>,
	Jan Beulich <jbeulich@suse.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>, X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xen.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Sasha Levin <sasha.levin@oracle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt synchronous
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2015 22:04:44 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55AEFA3C.3020006@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55AEE8A7.4040904@citrix.com>



On 07/21/2015 08:49 PM, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> On 22/07/2015 01:28, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 5:21 PM, Andrew Cooper
>> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>> On 22/07/2015 01:07, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:38 PM, Andrew Cooper
>>>> <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 21/07/2015 22:53, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>>>>> On 07/21/2015 03:59 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
>>>>>>> --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu_context.h
>>>>>>> +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu_context.h
>>>>>>> @@ -34,6 +34,44 @@ static inline void load_mm_cr4(struct mm_struct
>>>>>>> *mm) {}
>>>>>>>    #endif
>>>>>>>      /*
>>>>>>> + * ldt_structs can be allocated, used, and freed, but they are never
>>>>>>> + * modified while live.
>>>>>>> + */
>>>>>>> +struct ldt_struct {
>>>>>>> +    int size;
>>>>>>> +    int __pad;    /* keep the descriptors naturally aligned. */
>>>>>>> +    struct desc_struct entries[];
>>>>>>> +};
>>>>>> This breaks Xen which expects LDT to be page-aligned. Not sure why.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jan, Andrew?
>>>>> PV guests are not permitted to have writeable mappings to the frames
>>>>> making up the GDT and LDT, so it cannot make unaudited changes to
>>>>> loadable descriptors.  In particular, for a 32bit PV guest, it is only
>>>>> the segment limit which protects Xen from the ring1 guest kernel.
>>>>>
>>>>> A lot of this code hasn't been touched in years, and it certainly
>>>>> predates me.  The alignment requirement appears to come from the virtual
>>>>> region Xen uses to map the guests GDT and LDT.  Strict alignment is
>>>>> required for the GDT so Xen's descriptors starting at 0xe0xx are
>>>>> correct, but the LDT alignment seems to be a side effect of similar
>>>>> codepaths.
>>>>>
>>>>> For an LDT smaller than 8192 entries, I can't see any specific reason
>>>>> for enforcing alignment, other than "that's the way it has always been".
>>>>>
>>>>> However, the guest would still have to relinquish write access to all
>>>>> frames which make up the LDT, which looks to be a bit of an issue given
>>>>> the snippet above.
>>>> Does the LDT itself need to be aligned or just the address passed to
>>>> paravirt_alloc_ldt?
>>> The address which Xen receives needs to be aligned.
>>>
>>> It looks like xen_alloc_ldt() blindly assumes that the desc_struct *ldt
>>> it is passed is page aligned, and passes it straight through.
>> xen_alloc_ldt is just fiddling with protection though, I think.  Isn't
>> it xen_set_ldt that's the meat?  We could easily pass xen_alloc_ldt a
>> pointer to the ldt_struct.
> So it is.  It is the linear_addr in xen_set_ldt() which Xen currently
> audits to be page aligned.
>
>>>>> This will allow ldt_struct itself to be page aligned, and for the size
>>>>> field to sit across the base/limit field of what would logically be
>>>>> selector 0x0008  There would be some issues accessing size.  To load
>>>>> frames as an LDT, a guest must drop all refs to the page so that its
>>>>> type may be changed from writeable to segdesc.  After that, an
>>>>> update_descriptor hypercall can be used to change size, and I believe
>>>>> the guest may subsequently recreate read-only mappings to the frames in
>>>>> question (although frankly it is getting late so you will want to double
>>>>> check all of this).
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyhow, this looks like an issue which should be fixed up with slightly
>>>>> more PVOps, rather than enforcing a Xen view of the world on native Linux.
>>>>>
>>>> I could presumably make the allocation the other way around so the
>>>> size is at the end.  I could even use two separate allocations if
>>>> needed.

Why not wrap mm_context_t's ldt and size into a struct (just like 
ldt_struct but without __pad) and have a single allocation of ldt?

I.e.

struct ldt_struct {
     int size;
     struct desc_struct *entries;
}

--- a/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/mmu.h
@@ -9,8 +9,7 @@
    * we put the segment information here.
    */
   typedef struct {
-    void *ldt;
-    int size;
+    struct ldt_struct ldt;
     #ifdef CONFIG_X86_64
       /* True if mm supports a task running in 32 bit compatibility 
mode. */


-boris

>>> I suspect two separate allocations would be the better solution, as it
>>> means that the size field doesn't need to be subject to funny page
>>> permissions.
>> True.  OTOH we never write to the size field after allocating the thing.
> Right, but even reading it is going to cause problems if one of the
> paravirt ops can't re-establish ro mappings.
>
> ~Andrew
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-07-22  2:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-21 19:59 [PATCH v2 0/3] x86: modify_ldt improvement, test, and config option Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 1/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt synchronous Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 21:53   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-21 23:38     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-22  0:07       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  0:21         ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-22  0:28           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  0:49             ` Andrew Cooper
2015-07-22  1:06               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:04               ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2015-07-22  2:13                 ` [Xen-devel] " Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:01   ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  2:12     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  2:53       ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  4:22         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 2/3] x86/ldt: Make modify_ldt optional Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:20   ` Sasha Levin
2015-07-21 20:27     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:28   ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-21 20:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 20:54       ` Brian Gerst
2015-07-22  6:06       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-22  6:23         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22  6:27           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-07-22 18:49             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-22 12:34           ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-21 19:59 ` [PATCH v2 3/3] selftests/x86, x86/ldt: Add a selftest for modify_ldt Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 22:02   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-07-21 22:34     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-07-21 23:36   ` Willy Tarreau
2015-07-21 23:40     ` Andy Lutomirski

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