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From: Leonid Yegoshin <Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com>
To: David Daney <ddaney@caviumnetworks.com>
Cc: Paul Burton <paul.burton@imgtec.com>, <daniel.sanders@imgtec.com>,
	<linux-mips@linux-mips.org>, <cernekee@gmail.com>,
	<Zubair.Kakakhel@imgtec.com>, <geert+renesas@glider.be>,
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	<behanw@converseincode.com>, <macro@linux-mips.org>,
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	<tkhai@yandex.ru>, <james.hogan@imgtec.com>,
	<alexinbeijing@gmail.com>, <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>,
	<Steven.Hill@imgtec.com>, <lars.persson@axis.com>,
	<aleksey.makarov@auriga.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
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	<dahi@linux.vnet.ibm.com>, <markos.chandras@imgtec.com>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 3/3] MIPS: set stack/data protection as non-executable
Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2015 17:23:55 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C2A91B.1090704@imgtec.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C2A6FE.1020003@caviumnetworks.com>

On 08/05/2015 05:14 PM, David Daney wrote:
> On 08/05/2015 05:06 PM, Leonid Yegoshin wrote:
>> On 08/05/2015 04:55 PM, Paul Burton wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> As was pointed out last time you posted this, it breaks backwards
>>> compatibility with userland & thus cannot be applied.
>>
>> Never observed since first version.
>>
>> In other side, the problem with apps like ssh_keygen is observed in
>> absence of executable stack protection.
>
> You cannot change the default.
>
> If your ssh_keygen is broken, get a working version.

It is actually any application which requests non-executable stack 
protection and needs some emulation BEFORE GLIBC cancels that 
non-executable stack protection due to libraries.

If you build all libraries with PT_GNU_STACK 'non-executable' and use 
application with the same protection then you can't emulate even a 
single instruction - it crashes immediately. So, it is not a bad 
application, it is a bad choice for emulation space in past.

>
> I have never had a problem running ssh_keygen (on platforms requiring 
> emulation).

Create a buildroot FS with PT_GNU_STACK 'non-executable' libraries. Then 
run ssh_keygen on CPU without FPU and look.

You also may try to run MIPS R2 Debian on MIPS R6 CPU, and see a 
spectacular failure of ssh_keygen (it tries to emulate MIPS R2 
instruction before first library is loaded and that fails due to 
non-executable stack protection.

- Leonid.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-06  0:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-05 23:49 [PATCH v4 0/3] MIPS executable stack protection Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-05 23:49 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] MIPS: mips_flush_cache_range is added Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-05 23:49 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] MIPS: Setup an instruction emulation in VDSO protected page instead of user stack Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-05 23:49 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] MIPS: set stack/data protection as non-executable Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-05 23:55   ` Paul Burton
2015-08-06  0:06     ` Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-06  0:14       ` David Daney
2015-08-06  0:23         ` Leonid Yegoshin [this message]
2015-08-06  0:37           ` David Daney
2015-08-06  0:46             ` Leonid Yegoshin
2015-08-06  1:07               ` David Daney
2015-08-06  0:40           ` Paul Burton
2015-08-05 23:55   ` David Daney
2015-08-06  0:00 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] MIPS executable stack protection David Daney
2015-08-06  0:02   ` Leonid Yegoshin

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