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From: Daniel Mack <daniel@zonque.org>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	David Herrmann <dh.herrmann@gmail.com>
Cc: Tom Gundersen <teg@jklm.no>,
	"Kalle A. Sandstrom" <ksandstr@iki.fi>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	Havoc Pennington <havoc.pennington@gmail.com>,
	Djalal Harouni <tixxdz@opendz.org>, cee1 <fykcee1@gmail.com>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: kdbus: to merge or not to merge?
Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2015 20:14:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55C3A403.8020202@zonque.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrXcqOFedk8r-jHK-deRwfum29JHspALE6JUi2gzbo-dhg@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/06/2015 05:21 PM, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> Maybe gdbus really does use kdbus already, but on
> very brief inspection it looked like it didn't at least on my test VM.

No, it's not in any released version yet. The patches for that are being
worked on though and look promising.

> If the client buffers on !EPOLLOUT and has a monster buffer, then
> that's the client's problem.
> 
> If every single program has a monster buffer, then it's everyone's
> problem, and the size of the problem gets multiplied by the number of
> programs.

The size of the memory pool of a bus client is chosen by the client
itself individually during the HELLO call. It's pretty much the same as
if the client allocated the buffer itself, except that the kernel does
it on their behalf.

Also note that kdbus features a peer-to-peer based quota accounting
logic, so a single bus connection can not DOS another one by filling its
buffer.


Thanks,
Daniel

  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-06 18:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-23  6:06 kdbus: to merge or not to merge? Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:31 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-23  6:41 ` Greg KH
2015-06-23  7:22   ` Richard Weinberger
2015-06-23  9:25     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:38       ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23 15:07     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-25  2:14       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  2:20         ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-25  6:01           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25  6:05             ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-25 13:34               ` Theodore Ts'o
2015-06-25 14:03                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-23  9:12   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-07-08 13:54   ` Pavel Machek
2015-07-09  8:39     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 10:29       ` Joe Perches
2015-07-09 10:57         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-07-09 11:36       ` Pavel Machek
2015-06-23 23:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-24  0:52   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24  8:05   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 10:41     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 10:46     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:18       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 17:39         ` David Lang
2015-06-24 18:41           ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-06-24 18:50           ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 19:12             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:57               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2015-06-25 15:26                 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-06-25  6:31           ` Greg KH
2015-06-25  6:48             ` David Lang
2015-06-25  7:47           ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-25  7:51             ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 11:43     ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-06-24 13:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24  9:55 ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 14:38   ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]     ` <CAHr-LrYWNwv6_YLoP-B3duQ1QsjPiTiaEnjBQ7j2brPMeTgA3A@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]       ` <CALCETrW3F6YP_H1oRJa47f1DT7B35OubhJYSnq0U-_GmFQHNOA@mail.gmail.com>
2015-06-24 17:11         ` Alexander Larsson
2015-06-24 19:43           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-06-24 20:45             ` Alexander Larsson
2015-08-03 23:02 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-04  8:58   ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 13:46     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-04 14:09       ` David Herrmann
2015-08-04 14:47         ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-05  0:18           ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  7:06             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-06 15:27               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 17:24                 ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-05  7:10           ` David Herrmann
2015-08-05 20:11             ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06  8:04               ` David Herrmann
2015-08-06  8:25                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2015-08-06 15:21                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-06 18:14                   ` Daniel Mack [this message]
2015-08-06 18:43                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-07 14:40                       ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-07 15:09                         ` Andy Lutomirski
     [not found]                         ` <CA+55aFxDLt-5+=xXeYG4nJKMb8L_iD9FmwTZ2VuughBku-mW3g@mail.gmail.com>
2015-08-09 19:00                           ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2015-08-09 22:11                             ` Daniel Mack
2015-08-10  2:10                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-08-10 17:04                               ` Linus Torvalds
2015-08-10  2:48                             ` David Lang
2015-08-07 15:37                       ` cee1
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2015-07-01  0:03 Kalle A. Sandstrom
2015-07-01 16:51 ` David Herrmann
2015-07-06 21:18   ` Kalle A. Sandstrom

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