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From: "Wangnan (F)" <wangnan0@huawei.com>
To: Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
	He Kuang <hekuang@huawei.com>, pi3orama <pi3orama@163.com>,
	<llvm-dev@lists.llvm.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [llvm-dev] llvm bpf debug info. Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 2015 13:28:49 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55CAD991.4090002@huawei.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150812045704.GA58476@Alexeis-MBP.westell.com>



On 2015/8/12 12:57, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 10:34:43AM +0800, Wangnan (F) via llvm-dev wrote:
>> Think about a program like this:
>>
>> struct strA { int a; }
>> struct strB { int b; }
>> int func() {
>>    struct strA a;
>>    struct strB b;
>>
>>    a.a = 1;
>>    b.b = 2;
>>    bpf_output(gettype(a), &a);
>>    bpf_output(gettype(b), &b);
>>    return 0;
>> }
>>
>> BPF backend can't (and needn't) tell the difference between local
>> variables a and b in theory. In LLVM implementation, it filters type
>> information out using ComputeValueVTs().  Please have a look at
>> SelectionDAGBuilder::visitIntrinsicCall in
>> lib/CodeGen/SelectionDAG/SelectionDAGBuilder.cpp and
>> SelectionDAGBuilder::visitTargetIntrinsic in the same file. in
>> visitTargetIntrinsic, ComputeValueVTs acts as a barrier which strips
>> type information out from CallInst ("I"), and leave SDValue and SDVTList
>> ("Ops" and "VTs") to target code. SDValue and SDVTList are wrappers of
>> EVT and MVT, all information we concern won't be passed here.
>>
>> I think now we have 2 choices:
>>
>> 1. Hacking into clang, implement target specific builtin function. Now I
>>     have worked out a ugly but workable patch which setup a builtin function:
>>     __builtin_bpf_typeid(), which accepts local or global variable then
>>     returns different constant for different types.
>>
>> 2. Implementing an LLVM intrinsic call (llvm.typeid), make it be processed
>> in
>>     visitIntrinsicCall(). I think we can get something useful if it is
>> processed
>>     with that function.
> Yeah. You're right about pure target intrinsics.
> I think llvm.typeid might work. imo it's cleaner than
> doing it at clang level.
>
>> The next thing should be generating debug information to map type and
>> constants which issued by __builtin_bpf_typeid() or llvm.typeid. Now we
>> have a crazy idea that, if we limit the name of the structure to 8 bytes,
>> we can insert the name into a u64, then there would be no need to consider
>> type information in DWARF. For example, in the above sample code, gettype(a)
>> will issue 0x0000000041727473 because its type is "strA". What do you think?
> that's way too hacky.
> I was thinking when compiling we can keep llvm ir along with .o
> instead of dwarf and extract type info from there.
> dwarf has names and other things that we don't need. We only
> care about actual field layout of the structs.
> But it probably won't be easy to parse llvm ir on perf side
> instead of dwarf.

Shipping both llvm IR and .o to perf makes it harder to use. I'm
not sure whether it is a good idea. If we are unable to encode the
structure using a u64, let's still dig into dwarf.

We have another idea that we can utilize dwarf's existing feature.
For example, when __buildin_bpf_typeid() get called, define an enumerate
type in dwarf info, so you'll find:

  <1><2a>: Abbrev Number: 2 (DW_TAG_enumeration_type)
     <2b>   DW_AT_name        : (indirect string, offset: 0xec): TYPEINFO
     <2f>   DW_AT_byte_size   : 4
     <30>   DW_AT_decl_file   : 1
     <31>   DW_AT_decl_line   : 3
  <2><32>: Abbrev Number: 3 (DW_TAG_enumerator)
     <33>   DW_AT_name        : (indirect string, offset: 0xcc): 
__typeinfo_strA
     <37>   DW_AT_const_value : 2
  <2><38>: Abbrev Number: 3 (DW_TAG_enumerator)
     <39>   DW_AT_name        : (indirect string, offset: 0xdc): 
__typeinfo_strB
     <3d>   DW_AT_const_value : 3

or this:

  <3><54>: Abbrev Number: 4 (DW_TAG_variable)
     <55>   DW_AT_const_value : 2
     <66>   DW_AT_name        : (indirect string, offset: 0x1e): 
__typeinfo_strA
     <6a>   DW_AT_decl_file   : 1
     <6b>   DW_AT_decl_line   : 29
     <6c>   DW_AT_type        : <0x72>

then from DW_AT_name and DW_AT_const_value we can do the mapping. 
Drawback is that
all __typeinfo_ prefixed names become reserved.


> btw, if you haven't looked at iovisor/bcc, there we're solving
> similar problem differently. There we use clang rewriter, so all
> structs fields are visible at this level, then we use bpf backend
> in JIT mode and push bpf instructions into the kernel on the fly
> completely skipping ELF and .o
> For example in:
> https://github.com/iovisor/bcc/blob/master/examples/distributed_bridge/tunnel.c
> when you see
> struct ethernet_t {
>    unsigned long long  dst:48;
>    unsigned long long  src:48;
>    unsigned int        type:16;
> } BPF_PACKET_HEADER;
> struct ethernet_t *ethernet = cursor_advance(cursor, sizeof(*ethernet));
> ... ethernet->src ...
> is recognized by clang rewriter and ->src is converted to a different
> C code that is sent again into clang.
> So there is no need to use dwarf or patch clang/llvm. clang rewriter
> has all the info.

Could you please give us further information about your clang rewriter?
I guess you need a new .so when injecting those code into kernel?

> I'm not sure you can live with clang/llvm on the host where you
> want to run the tracing bits, but if you can that's an easier option.
>

I'm not sure. Our target platform should be embedded devices like 
smartphone.
Bringing full clang/llvm environment there is not acceptable.

Thank you.



  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-12  5:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-10 10:03 [RFC PATCH v4 0/3] Make eBPF programs output data to perf event He Kuang
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 1/3] tracing/events: Fix wrong sample output by storing array length instead of size He Kuang
2015-07-17 14:32   ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-17 17:24     ` Sara Rostedt
2015-07-17 18:13     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-07-23 19:36       ` Alex Bennée
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 2/3] tools lib traceevent: Add function to get dynamic arrays length He Kuang
2015-07-10 10:03 ` [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event He Kuang
2015-07-10 22:10   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-13  4:36     ` He Kuang
2015-07-13 13:52       ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-13 14:01         ` pi3orama
2015-07-13 14:09           ` Namhyung Kim
2015-07-13 14:29             ` pi3orama
2015-07-14  1:43               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-14 11:54                 ` He Kuang
2015-07-17  4:11                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-17  4:14                     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-17  4:27                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-23 11:54                         ` He Kuang
2015-07-23 20:49                           ` llvm bpf debug info. " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-24  3:20                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-24  4:16                               ` He Kuang
2015-07-25 10:04                                 ` He Kuang
2015-07-28  2:18                                   ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-29  9:38                                     ` He Kuang
2015-07-29 17:13                                       ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-29 20:00                                         ` pi3orama
2015-07-29 22:20                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-31 10:18                                         ` Wangnan (F)
2015-07-31 10:20                                           ` [LLVM PATCH] BPF: add FRAMEADDR support Wang Nan
2015-07-31 10:21                                           ` [LLVM CLANG PATCH] BPF: add __builtin_bpf_typeid() Wang Nan
2015-07-31 10:48                                           ` llvm bpf debug info. Re: [RFC PATCH v4 3/3] bpf: Introduce function for outputing data to perf event pi3orama
2015-08-03 19:44                                           ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-04  9:01                                             ` Cc llvmdev: " Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  1:58                                               ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  2:05                                                 ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  6:51                                                   ` [LLVMdev] " Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  7:11                                                     ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-05  8:28                                                       ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  3:22                                                         ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-06  4:35                                                           ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  6:55                                                             ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-12  2:34                                             ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-12  4:57                                               ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-12  5:28                                                 ` Wangnan (F) [this message]
2015-08-12 13:15                                                   ` Brenden Blanco
2015-08-13  6:24                                                     ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-05  8:59                                         ` [LLVMdev] Cc llvmdev: " He Kuang
2015-08-06  3:41                                           ` [llvm-dev] " Alexei Starovoitov
2015-08-06  4:31                                             ` Wangnan (F)
2015-08-06  6:50                                               ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-07-13  8:29   ` Peter Zijlstra

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