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From: Avi Kivity <avi.kivity@gmail.com>
To: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 4/5] KVM: add KVM_USER_EXIT vcpu ioctl for userspace exit
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 09:43:55 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55D425AB.8000800@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55D38E37.5060709@redhat.com>

On 08/18/2015 10:57 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>
> On 18/08/2015 11:30, Avi Kivity wrote:
>>> KVM_USER_EXIT in practice should be so rare (at least with in-kernel
>>> LAPIC) that I don't think this matters.  KVM_USER_EXIT is relatively
>>> uninteresting, it only exists to provide an alternative to signals that
>>> doesn't require expensive atomics on each and every KVM_RUN. :(
>> Ah, so the idea is to remove the cost of changing the signal mask?
> Yes, it's explained in the cover letter.
>
>> Yes, although it looks like a thread-local operation, it takes a
>> process-wide lock.
> IIRC the lock was only task-wide and uncontended.  Problem is, it's on
> the node that created the thread rather than the node that is running
> it, and inter-node atomics are really, really slow.

Cached inter-node atomics are (relatively) fast, but I think it really 
is a process-wide lock:

sigprocmask calls:

void __set_current_blocked(const sigset_t *newset)
{
     struct task_struct *tsk = current;

     spin_lock_irq(&tsk->sighand->siglock);
     __set_task_blocked(tsk, newset);
     spin_unlock_irq(&tsk->sighand->siglock);
}

struct sighand_struct {
     atomic_t        count;
     struct k_sigaction    action[_NSIG];
     spinlock_t        siglock;
     wait_queue_head_t    signalfd_wqh;
};

Since sigaction is usually process-wide, I conclude that so will 
tsk->sighand.



>
> For guests spanning >1 host NUMA nodes it's not really practical to
> ensure that the thread is created on the right node.  Even for guests
> that fit into 1 host node, if you rely on AutoNUMA the VCPUs are created
> too early for AutoNUMA to have any effect.  And newer machines have
> frighteningly small nodes (two nodes per socket, so it's something like
> 7 pCPUs if you don't have hyper-threading enabled).  True, the NUMA
> penalty within the same socket is not huge, but it still costs a few
> thousand clock cycles on vmexit.flat and this feature sweeps it away
> completely.
>
>> I expect most user wakeups are via irqfd, so indeed the performance of
>> KVM_USER_EXIT is uninteresting.
> Yup, either irqfd or KVM_SET_SIGNAL_MSI.
>
> Paolo


  reply	other threads:[~2015-08-19  6:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-08-05 16:32 [PATCH v2 0/5] KVM: optimize userspace exits with a new ioctl Radim Krčmář
2015-08-05 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] KVM: add kvm_has_request wrapper Radim Krčmář
2015-08-12 19:57   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-08-13  9:11     ` Radim Krčmář
2015-08-13  9:29       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-13 10:03         ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-08-14  8:42           ` Radim Krčmář
2015-08-05 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] KVM: add KVM_REQ_EXIT request for userspace exit Radim Krčmář
2015-08-05 16:32 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] KVM: x86: add request_exits debug counter Radim Krčmář
2015-08-05 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] KVM: add KVM_USER_EXIT vcpu ioctl for userspace exit Radim Krčmář
2015-08-05 16:36   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-06 13:44     ` Radim Krčmář
2015-08-06 13:52       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-06 17:21         ` Radim Krčmář
2015-08-16 20:27   ` Avi Kivity
2015-08-17 13:15     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-18 18:30       ` Avi Kivity
2015-08-18 19:57         ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-08-19  6:43           ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2015-08-05 16:33 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] KVM: refactor asynchronous vcpu ioctl dispatch Radim Krčmář
2015-08-12 20:03   ` Christian Borntraeger
2015-08-13  8:53     ` Radim Krčmář
2015-08-13  9:29     ` Paolo Bonzini

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