From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S1754813AbbISOOb (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:14:31 -0400 Received: from h1446028.stratoserver.net ([85.214.92.142]:48521 "EHLO mail.ahsoftware.de" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1753970AbbISOO3 (ORCPT ); Sat, 19 Sep 2015 10:14:29 -0400 Subject: Re: First kernel patch (optimization) To: Greg KH , "Theodore Ts'o" , Josh Boyer , Eric Curtin , Austin S Hemmelgarn , Steve Calfee , Valentina Manea , Shuah Khan , USB list , Kernel development list References: <1442346808-3784-1-git-send-email-ericcurtin17@gmail.com> <55F95671.6060405@gmail.com> <20150916132426.GA7420@kroah.com> <20150916164031.GH7394@thunk.org> <20150918031251.GA30905@thunk.org> <20150918074248.GA10792@kroah.com> <20150919022624.GB2921@thunk.org> <20150919051827.GB17114@kroah.com> <55FD5A76.1020603@ahsoftware.de> From: Alexander Holler Message-ID: <55FD6DB6.1090003@ahsoftware.de> Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2015 16:14:14 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/38.1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <55FD5A76.1020603@ahsoftware.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Am 19.09.2015 um 14:52 schrieb Alexander Holler: > Am 19.09.2015 um 07:18 schrieb Greg KH: > >> I have been saying for years that we have a lack of real projects / >> tasks / ideas for people who are skilled, yet have no idea what to do. >> I know of well over a hundred people I have email addresses of that have >> asked me for these types of things, and have patches in the kernel that >> are non-trivial to prove that they have the skill to do real things. >> >> It's a real problem, and one that I don't have an answer for. We need >> these types of tasks, and I don't have them, and every maintainer I ask >> about it also doesn't have them. What we are asking for is people to >> somehow come up with tasks on their own, as if they know what needs to >> be done. > > I've recently posted a proof of concept for wiping files, or in other > words to really delete files, And it was a disaster because if someone > posts imperfect pathhes on this list, people have fun trying to eat you > (because they seem bored or whatever). > > Even posting perfect patches is a game, because there exists always a > space, newline or variable name which might be used to start annoying > discussions. > > So, there is no reason to wonder about the lack of such tasks. > > So even if you don't agree, here as task: wipe files in real. ;) By the way, in that discussion (about wiping files) I was blamed for writing bugs in bugzilla without offering a patch, for something they believe it is a feature (whereas I still believe it is a bug to not really delete files). That leaded me to the question if there is somewhere a feature request tracker, for which I've got, of course, no answer. So, if there is a lack of real projects / tasks / ideas, maybe it might make sense to setup such a feature request tracker (or idea pool), maybe with the possibility to let people up/down vote ideas. Regards, Alexander Holler