From: Daniel Borkmann <daniel@iogearbox.net>
To: Hannes Frederic Sowa <hannes@stressinduktion.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@plumgrid.com>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>
Cc: davem@davemloft.net, viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, tgraf@suug.ch,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: add support for persistent maps/progs
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:51:08 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5624BD0C.3070404@iogearbox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1445240171.3728424.413797809.230D716F@webmail.messagingengine.com>
On 10/19/2015 09:36 AM, Hannes Frederic Sowa wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Sun, Oct 18, 2015, at 22:59, Alexei Starovoitov wrote:
>> On 10/18/15 9:49 AM, Daniel Borkmann wrote:
>>> Okay, I have pushed some rough working proof of concept here:
>>>
>>> https://git.breakpoint.cc/cgit/dborkman/net-next.git/log/?h=ebpf-fds-final5
>>>
>>> So the idea eventually had to be slightly modified after giving this
>>> further
>>> thoughts and is the following:
>>>
>>> We have 3 commands (BPF_DEV_CREATE, BPF_DEV_DESTROY, BPF_DEV_CONNECT), and
>>> related to that a bpf_attr extension with only a single __u32 fd member
>>> in it.
>> ...
>>> The nice thing about it is that you can create/unlink as many as you
>>> want, but
>>> when you remove the real device from an application via
>>> bpf_dev_destroy(fd),
>>> then all links disappear with it. Just like in the case of a normal
>>> device driver.
>>
>> interesting idea!
>> What happens if user app creates a dev via bpf_dev_create(), exits and
>> then admin does rm of that dev ?
>> Looks like map/prog will leak ?
>> So the only proper way to delete such cdevs is via bpf_dev_destroy ?
>
> The mknod is not the holder but rather the kobject which should be
> represented in sysfs will be. So you can still get the map major:minor
> by looking up the /dev file in the correspdonding sysfs directory or I
> think we should provide a 'unbind' file, which will drop the kobject if
> the user writes a '1' to it.
I agree, this could still be done.
>>> On device creation, the kernel will return the minor number via bpf(2),
>>> so you
>>> can access the file easily, f.e. /dev/bpf/bpf_map<minor> resp.
>>> /dev/bpf/bpf_prog<minor>,
>>> and then move on with mknod(2) or symlink(2) from there if wished.
>>
>> what if admin mknod in that dir with some arbitrary minor ?
>
> Basically, -EIO. :)
>
>> mknod will succeed, but it won't hold anything?
>
> That is right now true for basically all mknod operations, which udev
> creates.
>
>> looks like bpf_dev_connect will handle it gracefully.
>> So these cdevs should only be created and destroyed via bpf syscall
>> and only sensible operations on them is open() to get fd and pass
>> to bpf_dev_connect and symlink. Anything else admin should be
>> careful not to do. Right?
>
> Besides maybe some statistics and other stuff in sysfs directory, no,
> that is all.
>
> Bye,
> Hannes
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-19 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-16 1:09 [PATCH net-next 0/4] BPF updates Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 1:09 ` [PATCH net-next 1/4] bpf: abstract anon_inode_getfd invocations Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 1:09 ` [PATCH net-next 2/4] bpf: align and clean bpf_{map,prog}_get helpers Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 1:09 ` [PATCH net-next 3/4] bpf: add support for persistent maps/progs Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 10:25 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-16 13:36 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 16:36 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-16 17:27 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 17:37 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 16:18 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 16:43 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-16 17:32 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 17:37 ` Thomas Graf
2015-10-16 17:21 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-16 17:42 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 17:56 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 18:41 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-16 19:27 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 19:53 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-16 20:56 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 23:44 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-17 2:43 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-17 12:28 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-18 2:20 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-18 15:03 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-18 16:49 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-18 20:59 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19 7:36 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-19 9:51 ` Daniel Borkmann [this message]
2015-10-19 14:23 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-19 16:22 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19 17:37 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-19 18:15 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19 18:46 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-19 19:34 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19 20:03 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-19 20:48 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-19 22:17 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-20 0:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-20 8:46 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-20 17:53 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-20 18:56 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-21 15:17 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-21 18:34 ` Thomas Graf
2015-10-21 22:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-22 13:22 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-22 19:35 ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-23 13:47 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-20 9:43 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-19 23:02 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-20 1:09 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-20 10:07 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2015-10-20 18:44 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2015-10-16 19:54 ` Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-16 1:09 ` [PATCH net-next 4/4] bpf: add sample usages " Daniel Borkmann
2015-10-19 2:53 ` [PATCH net-next 0/4] BPF updates David Miller
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