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From: Richard Weinberger <richard@nod.at>
To: Yves-Alexis Perez <corsac@debian.org>,
	"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge@hallyn.com>,
	Tobias Markus <tobias@miglix.eu>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	Serge Hallyn <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux.com>,
	"Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)" <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org, linux-api@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-man@vger.kernel.org,
	Richard Weinberger <richard.weinberger@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] userns/capability: Add user namespace capability
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 14:48:04 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5624E684.8000302@nod.at> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1445258180.4099.18.camel@debian.org>

Am 19.10.2015 um 14:36 schrieb Yves-Alexis Perez:
> On dim., 2015-10-18 at 20:41 -0500, Serge E. Hallyn wrote:
>> We shouldn't need a long-term solution.  Your concern is bugs.  After
>> some time surely we'll feel that we have achieved a stable solution?
> 
> But this is actually the whole point: we need a long term solution, because
> they will always be bug, whether in user namespaces or in others parts exposed
> by user namespaces. It's fine to fix them when we find them, but that still
> means they're exploitable even before we know about them. We still find bugs
> in code written years ago, it's quite certain there are bugs in current code.

You can replace the term "user namespace" with any other non-trivial kernel subsystem.
There will always be bugs.

Thanks,
//richard

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-19 12:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-17 15:58 [PATCH] userns/capability: Add user namespace capability Tobias Markus
2015-10-17 20:17 ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-18 20:13   ` Tobias Markus
2015-10-18 20:21     ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-18 20:41       ` Tobias Markus
2015-10-18 20:48         ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-18 21:49           ` Tobias Markus
2015-10-18 22:06             ` Richard Weinberger
2015-10-19  0:28     ` Mike Frysinger
2015-10-17 21:55 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-10-18 20:13   ` Tobias Markus
2015-10-19  1:41     ` Serge E. Hallyn
2015-10-19 12:36       ` Yves-Alexis Perez
2015-10-19 12:48         ` Richard Weinberger [this message]
2015-10-22 20:45     ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-22 21:02       ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-22 21:44         ` Eric W. Biederman
2015-10-19 14:24 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-21 18:53   ` Andy Lutomirski
2015-10-21 19:13     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-10-22 17:10       ` Andy Lutomirski

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