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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>
Cc: jason <zhangqing.luo@oracle.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Guru Anbalagane <guru.anbalagane@oracle.com>,
	Feng Jin <joe.jin@oracle.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: blk-mq: takes hours for scsi scanning finish when thousands of LUNs
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2015 10:06:09 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56290971.9060403@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <x49a8rahpcw.fsf@segfault.boston.devel.redhat.com>

On 10/22/2015 09:53 AM, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk> writes:
>
>>> I agree with the optimizing hot paths by cheaper percpu operation,
>>> but how much does it affect the performance?
>>
>> A lot, since the queue referencing happens twice per IO. The switch to
>> percpu was done to use shared/common code for this, the previous
>> version was a handrolled version of that.
>>
>>> as you know the switching causes delay, when the the LUN  number is
>>> increasing
>>> the delay is becoming higher, so do you have any idea
>>> about the problem?
>>
>> Tejun already outlined a good solution to the problem:
>>
>> "If percpu freezing is
>> happening during that, the right solution is moving finish_init to
>> late enough point so that percpu switching happens only after it's
>> known that the queue won't be abandoned."
>
> I'm sure I'm missing something, but I don't think that will work.
> blk_mq_update_tag_depth is freezing every single queue.  Those queues
> are already setup and will not go away.  So how will moving finish_init
> later in the queue setup fix this?  The patch Jason provided most likely
> works because __percpu_ref_switch_to_atomic doesn't do anything.  The
> most important things it doesn't do are:
> 1) percpu_ref_get(mq_usage_counter), followed by
> 2) call_rcu_sched()
>
> It seems likely to me that forcing an rcu grace period for every single
> LUN attached to a particular host is what's causing the delay.
>
> And now you'll tell me how I've got that all wrong.  ;-)

Haha, no I think that is absolutely right. We've seen these bugs a lot, 
having thousands of serialized rcu grace period waits, this is just one 
more. The patch that Jason sent just bypassed the percpu switch, which 
we can't do.

> Anyway, I think what Jason had initially suggested, would work:
>
>    "if this thing must be done, as the code below shows just changing
>     flags depending on 'shared' variable why shouldn't we store the
>     previous result of 'shared' and compare with the current result, if
>     it's unchanged, nothing will be done and avoid looping all queues in
>     list."
>
> I think that percolating BLK_MQ_F_TAG_SHARED up to the tag set would
> allow newly created hctxs to simply inherit the shared state (in
> blk_mq_init_hctx), and you won't need to freeze every queue in order to
> guarantee that.
>
> I was writing a patch to that effect.  I've now stopped as I want to
> make sure I'm not off in the weeds.  :)

If that is where the delay is done, then yes, that should fix it and be 
a trivial patch.

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-22 16:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-19 14:40 blk-mq: takes hours for scsi scanning finish when thousands of LUNs Zhangqing Luo
2015-10-22  8:47 ` Tejun Heo
2015-10-22  9:15   ` jason
2015-10-22 15:14     ` Jens Axboe
2015-10-22 15:53       ` Jeff Moyer
2015-10-22 16:06         ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2015-10-22 19:04           ` Jeff Moyer
2015-10-23  9:48             ` jason
2015-10-23  0:57     ` Ming Lei

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