From: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
To: One Thousand Gnomes <gnomes@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Tomas Winkler <tomas.winkler@intel.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
Alexander Usyskin <alexander.usyskin@intel.com>,
linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [char-misc-next v2 7/7] watchdog: mei_wdt: re-register device on event
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 09:50:15 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <56744757.2060101@roeck-us.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151218171939.57bf5621@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
On 12/18/2015 09:19 AM, One Thousand Gnomes wrote:
>> I am not really happy about the watchdog device appearing and disappearing
>> dynamically. This wreaks havoc with any standard watchdog application.
>
> Any software that doesn't handle this has been broken for over fifteen
> years. We have hotplug PCI and we have PCI watchdog card support. This
> isn't a new behaviour to anyone outside the embedded single board space.
>
>> Isn't there a better way to handle this ? How about just registering the
>> watchdog device and return an error in the access functions if it is disabled ?
>
> That breaks the existing behaviour of hot pluggable watchdog interfaces
> and is different to just about any other device in the kernel. Today with
> any desktop or server distribution you can already trivially arrange for
> watchdog daemons to start at the point a watchdog is detected dynamically.
>
Ok, you have a point. Wonder if any distributions are doing that, though.
Any idea ?
Guenter
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-12-18 17:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-12-17 14:49 [char-misc-next v2 0/7] mei: create proper iAMT watchdog driver Tomas Winkler
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 1/7] mei: drop nfc leftovers from the mei driver Tomas Winkler
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 2/7] mei: wd: drop the watchdog code from the core " Tomas Winkler
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 3/7] watchdog: mei_wdt: implement MEI iAMT watchdog driver Tomas Winkler
2015-12-18 16:39 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next 4/7] watchdog: mei_wdt: add status debugfs entry Tomas Winkler
2015-12-18 16:43 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-20 9:44 ` Winkler, Tomas
2015-12-20 10:40 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-20 11:54 ` Winkler, Tomas
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 5/7] mei: bus: whitelist the watchdog client Tomas Winkler
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 6/7] watchdog: mei_wdt: register wd device only if required Tomas Winkler
2015-12-18 16:58 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-20 12:23 ` Winkler, Tomas
2015-12-20 18:16 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-17 14:49 ` [char-misc-next v2 7/7] watchdog: mei_wdt: re-register device on event Tomas Winkler
2015-12-18 17:05 ` Guenter Roeck
2015-12-18 17:19 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-12-18 17:50 ` Guenter Roeck [this message]
2015-12-18 18:14 ` One Thousand Gnomes
2015-12-20 12:53 ` Winkler, Tomas
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