From: "Liang, Kan" <kan.liang@linux.intel.com>
To: John Stultz <jstultz@google.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sboyd@kernel.org,
eranian@google.com, namhyung@kernel.org, ak@linux.intel.com,
adrian.hunter@intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH V2 2/9] perf: Extend ABI to support post-processing monotonic raw conversion
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2023 15:38:35 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <568b09ce-dc6a-8d2a-13ca-6df045236449@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANDhNCoZNmK12beqE5AAnQrpHEW01xKWwOWTQQEsWSuOaH0HRQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 2023-02-14 3:11 p.m., John Stultz wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:00 AM Liang, Kan <kan.liang@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>> On 2023-02-14 9:51 a.m., Liang, Kan wrote:
>>> If I understand correctly, the idea is to let the user space tool run
>>> the above interpoloation algorithm several times to 'guess' the atomic
>>> mapping. Using the mapping information to covert the TSC from the PEBS
>>> record. Is my understanding correct?
>>>
>>> If so, to be honest, I doubt we can get the accuracy we want.
>>>
>>
>> I implemented a simple test to evaluate the error.
>
> Very cool!
>
>> I collected TSC -> CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW mapping using the above algorithm
>> at the start and end of perf cmd.
>> MONO_RAW TSC
>> start 89553516545645 223619715214239
>> end 89562251233830 223641517000376
>>
>> Here is what I get via mult/shift conversion from this patch.
>> MONO_RAW TSC
>> PEBS 89555942691466 223625770878571
>>
>> Then I use the time information from start and end to create a linear
>> function and 'guess' the MONO_RAW of PEBS from the TSC. I get
>> 89555942692721.
>> There is a 1255 ns difference.
>> I tried several different PEBS records. The error is ~1000ns.
>> I think it should be an observable error.
>
> Interesting. That's a good bit higher than I'd expect as I'd expect a
> clock_gettime() call to take ~ double digit nanoseconds range on
> average, so the error should be within that.
>
> Can you share your logic?
>
I run the algorithm right before and after the perf command as below.
(The source code of time is attached.)
$./time
$perf record -e cycles:upp --clockid monotonic_raw $some_workaround
$./time
The time will dump both MONO_RAW and TSC. That's where "start" and "end"
from.
The perf command print out both TSC and converted MONO_RAW (using the
mul/shift from this patch series). That's where "PEBS" value from.
Than I use the below formula to calculate the guessed MONO_RAW of PEBS TSC.
Guessed_MONO_RAW = (PEBS_TSC - start_TSC) / (end_TSC - start_TSC) *
(end_MONO_RAW - start_MONO_RAW) + start_MONO_RAW.
The guessed_MONO_RAW is 89555942692721.
The PEBS_MONO_RAW is 89555942691466.
The difference is 1255.
Is the calculation correct?
Thanks,
Kan
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#include <sys/time.h>
#include <time.h>
#include <stdio.h>
#include <errno.h>
static inline unsigned long rdtsc ()
{
unsigned long var;
unsigned int hi, lo;
asm volatile ("rdtsc" : "=a" (lo), "=d" (hi));
var = ((unsigned long long int) hi << 32) | lo;
return var;
}
typedef unsigned long long u64;
int main()
{
struct timespec ts;
u64 start, end, delta, mid;
do {
start= rdtsc();
clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC_RAW, &ts);
end = rdtsc();
delta = end-start;
} while (delta > 20000); // make sure the reads were not preempted
mid = start + (delta +(delta/2))/2; //round-closest
printf("%llu %llu %llu\n", start, end, delta);
printf("MONO_RAW: %llu TSC: %llu\n", (u64)ts.tv_sec * 1000000000 + ts.tv_nsec, mid);
}
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-02-14 20:38 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-02-13 19:07 [RFC PATCH V2 0/9] Convert TSC to monotonic raw clock for PEBS kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 1/9] timekeeping: Expose the conversion information of monotonic raw kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:28 ` John Stultz
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 2/9] perf: Extend ABI to support post-processing monotonic raw conversion kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:37 ` John Stultz
2023-02-13 21:40 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-13 22:22 ` John Stultz
2023-02-14 10:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2023-02-14 17:46 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 19:37 ` John Stultz
2023-02-14 20:09 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 20:21 ` John Stultz
2023-03-12 20:50 ` Andi Kleen
2023-02-14 19:34 ` John Stultz
2023-02-14 14:51 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 17:00 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 20:11 ` John Stultz
2023-02-14 20:38 ` Liang, Kan [this message]
2023-02-17 23:11 ` John Stultz
2023-03-08 18:44 ` Liang, Kan
2023-03-09 1:17 ` John Stultz
2023-03-09 16:56 ` Liang, Kan
2023-03-11 5:55 ` John Stultz
2023-03-13 21:19 ` Liang, Kan
2023-03-18 6:02 ` John Stultz
2023-03-21 15:26 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 19:52 ` John Stultz
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 3/9] perf/x86: Factor out x86_pmu_sample_preload() kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 4/9] perf/x86: Enable post-processing monotonic raw conversion kan.liang
2023-02-14 20:02 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-02-14 20:21 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-14 20:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2023-03-21 15:38 ` Liang, Kan
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 5/9] perf/x86/intel: Enable large PEBS for monotonic raw kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 6/9] tools headers UAPI: Sync linux/perf_event.h with the kernel sources kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 7/9] perf session: Support the monotonic raw clock conversion information kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 8/9] perf evsel, tsc: Support the monotonic raw clock conversion kan.liang
2023-02-13 19:07 ` [RFC PATCH V2 9/9] perf evsel: Enable post-processing monotonic raw conversion by default kan.liang
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