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From: Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>
To: "Roger Pau Monné" <roger.pau@citrix.com>,
	"David Vrabel" <david.vrabel@citrix.com>,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, mcgrof@suse.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] [PATCH v2 08/11] xen/hvmlite: Extend APIC operations for HVMlite guests
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 09:01:09 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56B359A5.40202@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B340B4.3050406@citrix.com>

On 02/04/2016 07:14 AM, Roger Pau Monné wrote:
> El 4/2/16 a les 11:04, David Vrabel ha escrit:
>> On 01/02/16 15:38, Boris Ostrovsky wrote:
>>> HVMlite guests need to be viewed as having APIC, otherwise smpboot code,
>>> for example, will complain.
>> I think we should consider always giving HVMlite guests an emulated
>> APIC.  I think this eliminates one of the biggest differences between
>> HVMlite and native/KVM guests and will reduce the risk of future
>> breakage in this area.
> Right, I'm not opposed to that, but I think we should keep the hypercall
> interface in order to bring up vCPUs. IMHO it's useful for unikernels
> for example (do those support SMP?), and in general allows for
> easier/faster CPU-bringup as compared to bare metal.

As I mentioned in another reply, we can manage without emulated apic by 
slightly extending PV APIC. However, it is rather fragile and I think 
not having to do this would be a great improvement from code reliability 
POV. And with Intel's vAPIC (and AMD's equivalent eventually, I suppose) 
we should get performance improvement as well.

What was the reason for not providing it? ACPI?

>
> Then if we indeed decide to provide and emulated lapic, should we also
> at least provide the ACPI MADT table in order to enumerate them?

This brings another question that I was going to ask. In the NVDIMM 
thread there is a discussion about where to implement ACPI tables and I 
think people are leaning toward doing in it qemu. With HVMlite we can 
only (??) implement MADT (and whatever we add later) in the toolstack 
and so we will have 3 places (qemu, hvmloader, toolstack) that build 
ACPI tables.

Can we have all this done in one place? Perhaps keep this code as a library?

-boris

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-04 14:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-01 15:38 [PATCH v2 00/11] HVMlite domU support Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] xen/hvmlite: Import hvmlite-related Xen public interfaces Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:06   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] xen/hvmlite: Bootstrap HVMlite guest Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:39   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-02 17:19     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-03 18:55   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-03 20:11     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-03 23:40       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04 19:54         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-04 20:57           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04 22:28             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-03 20:52     ` [Xen-devel] " Andrew Cooper
2016-02-03 23:59       ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04  0:08         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-04  0:51         ` Andrew Cooper
2016-02-04 23:10           ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-05 22:02             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-04-24 20:23   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-25 13:21     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-04-25 13:47       ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-25 13:54         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-04-25 14:11           ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-25 14:42             ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-04-25 15:22               ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-25 15:48                 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-04-26 10:53                   ` Borislav Petkov
2016-04-25 17:24     ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] xen/hvmlite: Initialize HVMlite kernel Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-17 20:08   ` [Xen-devel] " Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] xen/hvmlite: Allow HVMlite guests delay initializing grant table Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:13   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-02 16:49     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-03 18:59   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] xen/hvmlite: HVMlite guests always have PV devices Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] xen/hvmlite: Prepare cpu_initialize_context() routine for HVMlite SMP Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:16   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] xen/hvmlite: Initialize context for secondary VCPUs Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:21   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-02 16:58     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-04 10:07       ` David Vrabel
2016-02-04 12:58       ` Doug Goldstein
2016-02-04 19:08         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] xen/hvmlite: Extend APIC operations for HVMlite guests Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-04 10:04   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-04 12:14     ` Roger Pau Monné
2016-02-04 14:01       ` Boris Ostrovsky [this message]
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] xen/hvmlite: Use x86's default timer init " Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-02 16:27   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-02 17:01     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] xen/hvmlite: Boot secondary CPUs Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-04 10:38   ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2016-02-04 13:51     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2016-02-01 15:38 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] xen/hvmlite: Enable CPU on-/offlining Boris Ostrovsky

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