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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Gregory Farnum <greg@gregs42.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"Martin K. Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	shane.seymour@hpe.com, Bruce Fields <bfields@fieldses.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jeff Layton <jlayton@poochiereds.net>,
	Eric Sandeen <esandeen@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] block: create ioctl to discard-or-zeroout a range of blocks
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2016 10:12:13 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56E24CA5.3030702@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFyw1nN4ze3-AGGE27evOZuXnkJC9C-W5QRUR=zKHqObGg@mail.gmail.com>

On 03/11/2016 12:03 AM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 6:58 AM, Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com> wrote:
>> What was objectionable at the time this patch was raised years back (not
>> just to me, but to pretty much every fs developer at LSF/MM that year)
>> centered on the concern that this would be viewed as a "performance" mode
>> and we get pressure to support this for non-priveleged users. It gives any
>> user effectively the ability to read the block device content for previously
>> allocated data without restriction.
> The sane way to do it would be to just check permissions of the
> underlying block device.
>
> That way, people can just set the permissions for that to whatever
> they want. If google right now uses some magical group for this, they
> could make the underlying block device be writable for that group.
>
> We can do the security check at the filesystem level, because we have
> sb->s_bdev->bd_inode, and if you have read and write permissions to
> that inode, you might as well have permission to create a unsafe hole.
>
> That doesn't sound very hacky to me.
>
>                 Linus

I agree that this sounds quite reasonable.

Ric

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-11  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-02  4:09 [PATCH v5.1 0/2] create BLKZEROOUT ioctl that invalidates page cache Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  4:09 ` [PATCH 1/2] block: invalidate the page cache when issuing BLKZEROOUT Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  9:19   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02  4:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] block: create ioctl to discard-or-zeroout a range of blocks Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02  9:20   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02 18:52   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-02 22:56     ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-02 23:49       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-03 17:02         ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 17:55           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-03 18:00             ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-03 18:14             ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 18:21             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 18:01         ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 18:09           ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-03 18:12             ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-03 18:54             ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-03 22:39               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-03 23:10                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-04  0:20                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-09 22:20                   ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-09 23:08                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-10 14:58                       ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-10 18:33                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-10 21:47                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-11  4:42                           ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2016-03-11 13:59                             ` One Thousand Gnomes
2016-03-11 15:27                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-11 17:23                               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 17:30                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-03-11 18:25                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-11 22:30                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-12  0:33                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-12  0:35                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-12  0:44                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-12  7:19                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-12 10:11                                             ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2016-03-13 23:30                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-14 10:34                                             ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-14 14:46                                               ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-15 20:14                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 20:43                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-15 21:29                                                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-15 22:33                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 22:52                                                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-16  1:51                                                         ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-16 21:45                                                           ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-17  0:15                                                             ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17  0:33                                                               ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-17  0:59                                                                 ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17  5:18                                                                 ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-17 12:36                                                                   ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-17 17:47                                                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17 17:50                                                                     ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-17 17:59                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17 18:35                                                                     ` Chris Mason
2016-03-17 20:49                                                                       ` Andreas Dilger
2016-03-17 21:00                                                                         ` Chris Mason
2016-03-18  3:20                                                                           ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-03-18 15:15                                                                             ` Jeff Moyer
2016-03-18 20:05                                                                               ` Martin K. Petersen
2016-03-18  6:52                                                                     ` Gregory Farnum
2016-03-18  7:19                                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-17  1:01                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-17  2:38                                                             ` Darrick J. Wong
2016-03-18 22:55                                                         ` NeilBrown
2016-03-15 23:06                                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-15 23:14                                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-16  0:08                                                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-15 23:52                                                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-16  0:06                                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-16  0:30                                                             ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-16  0:51                                                               ` Chris Mason
2016-03-16 22:23                                                                 ` Chris Mason
2016-03-17 13:49                                                                   ` Ric Wheeler
2016-03-15 22:38                                                   ` Eric Sandeen
2016-03-03 22:56               ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-04  2:30                 ` Thomas Schoebel-Theuer
2016-03-03 18:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-02  9:15 ` [PATCH v5.1 0/2] create BLKZEROOUT ioctl that invalidates page cache Arnd Bergmann
2016-03-02  9:44   ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-03-02 10:55     ` Arnd Bergmann

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