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From: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org,
	konrad.wilk@oracle.com, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, mingo@redhat.com,
	Douglas_Warzecha@dell.com, pali.rohar@gmail.com,
	jdelvare@suse.com, linux@roeck-us.net, tglx@linutronix.de,
	hpa@zytor.com, jeremy@goop.org, chrisw@sous-sol.org,
	akataria@vmware.com, rusty@rustcorp.com.au,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 5/6] virt, sched: add cpu pinning to smp_call_sync_on_phys_cpu()
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2016 11:03:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56FE3959.2030508@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160401084408.GF3448@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 01/04/16 10:44, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 10:28:46AM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>> On 01/04/16 09:43, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> On Fri, Apr 01, 2016 at 09:14:33AM +0200, Juergen Gross wrote:
>>>> --- a/kernel/smp.c
>>>> +++ b/kernel/smp.c
>>>> @@ -14,6 +14,7 @@
>>>>  #include <linux/smp.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/cpu.h>
>>>>  #include <linux/sched.h>
>>>> +#include <linux/hypervisor.h>
>>>>  
>>>>  #include "smpboot.h"
>>>>  
>>>> @@ -758,9 +759,14 @@ struct smp_sync_call_struct {
>>>>  static void smp_call_sync_callback(struct work_struct *work)
>>>>  {
>>>>  	struct smp_sync_call_struct *sscs;
>>>> +	unsigned int cpu;
>>>>  
>>>>  	sscs = container_of(work, struct smp_sync_call_struct, work);
>>>> +	cpu = get_cpu();
>>>> +	hypervisor_pin_vcpu(cpu);
>>>>  	sscs->ret = sscs->func(sscs->data);
>>>> +	hypervisor_pin_vcpu(-1);
>>>> +	put_cpu();
>>>>  
>>>>  	complete(&sscs->done);
>>>>  }
>>>
>>> So I don't really like this; it adds the requirement that the function
>>> cannot schedule, which greatly limits the utility of the construct. At
>>> this point you might as well use the regular IPI stuff.
>>
>> Main reason for disabling preemption was to avoid any suspend/resume
>> cycles while vcpu pinning is active.
>>
>> With the switch to workqueues this might not be necessary, if I've read
>> try_to_freeze_tasks() correctly. Can you confirm, please?
> 
> This is not something we should worry about; the caller should ensure
> the CPU stays valid; typically I would expect a caller to do
> get_online_cpus() before 'computing' what CPU to send the function to.

Okay.

> 
>>> So I would propose you add:
>>>
>>> 	smp_call_on_cpu()
>>>
>>> As per patch 2. No promises about physical or anything. This means it
>>> can be used freely by anyone that wants to run a function on another
>>> cpu -- a much more useful thing.
>>
>> Okay.
>>
>>> And then build a phys variant on top.
>>
>> Hmm, I'm not sure I understand what you are suggesting here.
>>
>> Should this phys variant make use of smp_call_on_cpu() via an
>> intermediate function called on the dedicated cpu which is doing the
>> pinning and calling the user function then?
>>
>> Or do you want the phys variant to either use smp_call_on_cpu() or to
>> do the pinning and call the user function by itself depending on the
>> environment (pinning supported)?
> 
> Yeah, uhmm.. not sure on the details; my brain is having a hard time
> engaging this morning.
> 
> Maybe just make the vpin thing an option like:
> 
> 	smp_call_on_cpu(int (*func)(void *), int phys_cpu);

Okay.

> Also; is something like the vpin thing possible on KVM? because if we're
> going to expose it to generic code like this we had maybe look at wider
> support.

It is necessary for dom0 under Xen. I don't think there is a need to do
this on KVM as a guest has no direct access to e.g. BIOS functions of
the real hardware and the host system needs no vcpu pinning. I'm not
sure about VMWare.

Juergen

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-01  9:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-01  7:14 [PATCH v3 0/6] Support calling functions on dedicated physical cpu Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 1/6] xen: sync xen header Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 2/6] smp: add function to execute a function synchronously on a physical cpu Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-01  7:40     ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 3/6] dcdbas: make use of smp_call_sync_on_phys_cpu() Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 4/6] hwmon: use smp_call_sync_on_phys_cpu() for dell-smm i8k Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 5/6] virt, sched: add cpu pinning to smp_call_sync_on_phys_cpu() Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:43   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-01  8:28     ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  8:44       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-01  9:03         ` Juergen Gross [this message]
2016-04-01  9:15           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-01  9:26             ` Juergen Gross
2016-04-01  7:14 ` [PATCH v3 6/6] xen: add xen_pin_vcpu() to support calling functions on a dedicated pcpu Juergen Gross

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