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From: Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>
To: Nick Dyer <nick.dyer@itdev.co.uk>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@osg.samsung.com>
Cc: Dmitry Torokhov <dmitry.torokhov@gmail.com>,
	linux-input@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	Benjamin Tissoires <benjamin.tissoires@redhat.com>,
	Benson Leung <bleung@chromium.org>,
	Alan Bowens <Alan.Bowens@atmel.com>,
	Javier Martinez Canillas <javier@osg.samsung.com>,
	Chris Healy <cphealy@gmail.com>,
	Henrik Rydberg <rydberg@bitmath.org>,
	Andrew Duggan <aduggan@synaptics.com>,
	James Chen <james.chen@emc.com.tw>, Dudley Du <dudl@cypress.com>,
	Andrew de los Reyes <adlr@chromium.org>,
	sheckylin@chromium.org, Peter Hutterer <peter.hutterer@who-t.net>,
	Florian Echtler <floe@butterbrot.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - output raw touch diagnostic data via V4L
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2016 17:18:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <571A40C0.90208@xs4all.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571A3E3E.60601@itdev.co.uk>

On 04/22/2016 05:07 PM, Nick Dyer wrote:
> On 22/04/2016 15:45, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> Em Fri, 22 Apr 2016 10:26:37 +0200
>> Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl> escreveu:
>>> On 04/21/2016 11:31 AM, Nick Dyer wrote:
>>>> This is a series of patches to add diagnostic data support to the Atmel
>>>> maXTouch driver. It's a rewrite of the previous implementation which output via
>>>> debugfs: it now uses a V4L2 device in a similar way to the sur40 driver.
>>>>
>>>> There are significant performance advantages to putting this code into the
>>>> driver. The algorithm for retrieving the data has been fairly consistent across
>>>> a range of chips, with the exception of the mXT1386 series (see patch).
>>>>
>>>> We have a utility which can read the data and display it in a useful format:
>>>> 	https://github.com/ndyer/heatmap/commits/heatmap-v4l
>>>>
>>>> These patches are also available from
>>>> 	https://github.com/ndyer/linux/commits/diagnostic-v4l
>>>>
>>>> Any feedback appreciated.  
>>>
>>> FYI: we're working on a new buffer type for meta data:
>>>
>>> https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/33938/
>>> https://patchwork.linuxtv.org/patch/33939/
>>
>> One of the things I missed on your patchset is the content of the
>> new format you added (V4L2_PIX_FMT_YS16). You should be patching
>> the V4L2 docbook too, in order to add it there.
> 
> OK, will do. I also see that I forgot Kconfig changes for CONFIG_VIDEO_V4L2
> etc.
> 
>> That's said, if the output is really an image, I don't think it
>> should be mapped via the new V4L2_BUF_TYPE_META_CAPTURE. This type of
>> buffer is meant to be used on non-image metadata, like image statistics
>> to feed auto whitebalance and other similar AAA algorithms.
> 
> The output is raw touch data - i.e. a rectangular grid of nodes each having
> an integer value. I think it is an image in some senses, although perhaps
> it's a matter of opinion!
> 
> You can see an example of a Atmel MXT capacitive touch device here (using
> this patchset):
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj4T6fUCySw
> 
> There are touch devices which can deliver much higher resolution/framerate.
> For example here's the data coming from a SUR40 which is an optical touch
> sensor but uses V4L in a similar way:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-JNqTY_3b0
> 
>> It could still make sense to use the new device type (VFL_TYPE_META) for
>> such drivers, as we don't want applications to identify those devices as
>> if they are a webcam.
> 
> I agree it may be a little confusing if things like Skype start picking up
> these devices. Could we #define V4L2_INPUT_TYPE_TOUCH_SENSOR to solve that
> problem?
> 

That might be an idea. I have to admit that I didn't look at the patches in
detail. It mentioned diagnostics, so I didn't realize that it is a image
with a width and height, even though it is not a regular video input.

Adding a new input type won't prevent anyone from picking it up, since
nobody tests that field :-)

On the other hand, it would be a good place to tell the user that it
is from a touch sensor.

Using the upcoming metadata feature wouldn't work since there is no width
and height in the metadata format.

I wonder what others think about adding a new type value.

Regards,

	Hans

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-22 15:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-21  9:31 [PATCH 0/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - output raw touch diagnostic data via V4L Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 1/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - add support for T37 diagnostic data Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 2/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - output diagnostic debug via v4l2 device Nick Dyer
2016-04-21 11:04   ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-21 11:23   ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-21 11:43   ` kbuild test robot
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 3/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - read touchscreen size Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 4/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - handle diagnostic data orientation Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 5/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - add diagnostic data support for mXT1386 Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 6/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - add support for reference data Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 7/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - single node diagnostic data support Nick Dyer
2016-04-21  9:31 ` [PATCH 8/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - add v4l pixelformat definition for touch refs output Nick Dyer
2016-04-22  8:26 ` [PATCH 0/8] Input: atmel_mxt_ts - output raw touch diagnostic data via V4L Hans Verkuil
2016-04-22 14:45   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-04-22 15:07     ` Nick Dyer
2016-04-22 15:18       ` Hans Verkuil [this message]
2016-04-22 15:44         ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2016-04-29 12:14           ` Nick Dyer

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