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From: Pan Xinhui <xinhui@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org, paulus@samba.org, mpe@ellerman.id.au,
	boqun.feng@gmail.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] powerpc: Implement {cmp}xchg for u8 and u16
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 18:10:51 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <571DED2B.8060600@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160421161354.GI3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>


On 2016年04月22日 00:13, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 11:35:07PM +0800, Pan Xinhui wrote:
>> yes, you are right. more load/store will be done in C code.
>> However such xchg_u8/u16 is just used by qspinlock now. and I did not see any performance regression.
>> So just wrote in C, for simple. :)
> 
> Which is fine; but worthy of a note in your Changelog.
> 
will do that.

>> Of course I have done xchg tests.
>> we run code just like xchg((u8*)&v, j++); in several threads.
>> and the result is,
>> [  768.374264] use time[1550072]ns in xchg_u8_asm
>> [  768.377102] use time[2826802]ns in xchg_u8_c
>>
>> I think this is because there is one more load in C.
>> If possible, we can move such code in asm-generic/.
> 
> So I'm not actually _that_ familiar with the PPC LL/SC implementation;
> but there are things a CPU can do to optimize these loops.
> 
> For example, a CPU might choose to not release the exclusive hold of the
> line for a number of cycles, except when it passes SC or an interrupt
> happens. This way there's a smaller chance the SC fails and inhibits
> forward progress.
I am not sure if there is such hardware optimization.

> 
> By doing the modification outside of the LL/SC you loose such
> advantages.
> 
> And yes, doing a !exclusive load prior to the exclusive load leads to an
> even bigger window where the data can get changed out from under you.
> 
you are right.
We have observed such data change during the two different loads.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-04-25 10:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-19  6:29 [PATCH V2] powerpc: Implement {cmp}xchg for u8 and u16 Pan Xinhui
2016-04-19  9:18 ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-20  3:39   ` Pan Xinhui
2016-04-20 13:24 ` [PATCH V3] " Pan Xinhui
2016-04-20 14:24   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-21 15:35     ` Pan Xinhui
2016-04-21 15:52       ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-22  1:59         ` Pan Xinhui
2016-04-22  3:16           ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-21 16:13       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-25 10:10         ` Pan Xinhui [this message]
2016-04-25 15:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-26 11:35             ` Pan Xinhui
2016-04-27  9:16   ` [PATCH V4] " Pan Xinhui
2016-04-27 13:58     ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-27 14:16       ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-27 14:50       ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-27 14:59         ` Boqun Feng
2016-04-28 10:21           ` Pan Xinhui
2016-04-28  7:59     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-04-28 10:21       ` Pan Xinhui
2016-11-25  0:04     ` [V4] " Michael Ellerman

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