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From: Dietmar Eggemann <dietmar.eggemann@arm.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Clean up the logic in fix_small_imbalance()
Date: Tue, 3 May 2016 17:53:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5728D793.3070909@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160503101225.GM3430@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 03/05/16 11:12, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 29, 2016 at 08:32:41PM +0100, Dietmar Eggemann wrote:
>> Avoid the need to add scaled_busy_load_per_task on both sides of the if
>> condition to determine whether imbalance has to be set to
>> busiest->load_per_task or not.
>>
>> The imbn variable was introduced with commit 2dd73a4f09be ("[PATCH]
>> sched: implement smpnice") and the original if condition was
>>
>>   if (max_load - this_load >= busiest_load_per_task * imbn)
>>
>> which over time changed into the current version where
>> scaled_busy_load_per_task is to be found on both sides of
>> the if condition.
> 
> This appears to have started with:
> 
>   dd41f596cda0 ("sched: cfs core code")
> 
> which for unexplained reasons does:
> 
> -               if (max_load - this_load >= busiest_load_per_task * imbn) {
> +               if (max_load - this_load + SCHED_LOAD_SCALE_FUZZ >=
> +                                       busiest_load_per_task * imbn) {
> 
> 
> And later patches (by me) change that FUZZ into a variable metric,
> because a fixed fuzz like that didn't at all work for the small loads
> that result from cgroup tasks.
> 
> 
> 
> Now fix_small_imbalance() always hurt my head; it originated in the
> original sched_domain balancer from Nick which wasn't smpnice aware; and
> lives on until today.

I see, all this code is already in the history.git kernel.

> 
> Its purpose is to determine if moving one task over is beneficial.
> However over time -- and smpnice started this -- the idea of _one_ task
> became quite muddled.
> 
> With the fine grained load accounting of today; does it even make sense
> to ask this question? IOW. what does fix_small_imbalance() really gain
> us -- other than a head-ache?

So task priority breaks the assumption that 1 task is equivalent to
SCHED_LOAD_SCALE and so does fine grained load accounting.

fix_small_imbalance() is called twice from calculate_imbalance, if we
would get rid of it, I don't know if we should bail out of lb in case
the avg load values don't align nicely (busiest > sd avg > local) or
just continue w/ lb.

In the second case, where the imbalance value is raised (to
busiest->load_per_task), we probably can just continue w/ lb, hoping
that there is a task on the src rq which fits the smaller imbalance value.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-03 16:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-29 19:32 [PATCH 0/7] sched/fair: fixes and cleanups Dietmar Eggemann
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 1/7] sched/fair: Remove remaining power aware scheduling comments Dietmar Eggemann
2016-05-05  9:42   ` [tip:sched/core] sched/fair: Remove stale " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 2/7] sched/fair: Fix comment in calculate_imbalance() Dietmar Eggemann
2016-05-05  9:42   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Dietmar Eggemann
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 3/7] sched/fair: Correct unit of load_above_capacity Dietmar Eggemann
2016-05-03 10:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-03 14:56     ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-05-12 10:31   ` [tip:sched/core] " tip-bot for Morten Rasmussen
2016-05-12 21:48     ` Yuyang Du
2016-05-13  8:22       ` Vincent Guittot
2016-05-19 15:36         ` Morten Rasmussen
2016-05-20  8:17           ` Vincent Guittot
2016-05-23 20:24           ` Yuyang Du
2016-05-30 22:35             ` Yuyang Du
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 4/7] sched/fair: Clean up the logic in fix_small_imbalance() Dietmar Eggemann
2016-05-03 10:12   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-03 16:53     ` Dietmar Eggemann [this message]
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 5/7] sched/fair: Remove cpu_avg_load_per_task() Dietmar Eggemann
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 6/7] sched/fair: Reorder code in update_sd_lb_stats() Dietmar Eggemann
2016-04-29 19:32 ` [PATCH 7/7] sched/fair: Use group_cfs_rq(se) instead of se->my_q Dietmar Eggemann

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