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From: "Christian König" <christian.koenig@amd.com>
To: Dmitry Osipenko <dmitry.osipenko@collabora.com>,
	David Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>, Huang Rui <ray.huang@amd.com>,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel@ffwll.ch>,
	Trigger Huang <Trigger.Huang@gmail.com>,
	Gert Wollny <gert.wollny@collabora.com>,
	Antonio Caggiano <antonio.caggiano@collabora.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dmitry Osipenko <digetx@gmail.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, kernel@collabora.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] drm/ttm: Refcount allocated tail pages
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 12:51:02 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57562db8-bacf-e82d-8417-ab6343c1d2fa@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2df57a30-2afb-23dc-c7f5-f61c113dd5b4@collabora.com>

Am 15.08.22 um 12:47 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko:
> On 8/15/22 13:18, Dmitry Osipenko wrote:
>> On 8/15/22 13:14, Christian König wrote:
>>> Am 15.08.22 um 12:11 schrieb Christian König:
>>>> Am 15.08.22 um 12:09 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko:
>>>>> On 8/15/22 13:05, Christian König wrote:
>>>>>> Am 15.08.22 um 11:54 schrieb Dmitry Osipenko:
>>>>>>> Higher order pages allocated using alloc_pages() aren't refcounted and
>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>> need to be refcounted, otherwise it's impossible to map them by
>>>>>>> KVM. This
>>>>>>> patch sets the refcount of the tail pages and fixes the KVM memory
>>>>>>> mapping
>>>>>>> faults.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Without this change guest virgl driver can't map host buffers into
>>>>>>> guest
>>>>>>> and can't provide OpenGL 4.5 profile support to the guest. The host
>>>>>>> mappings are also needed for enabling the Venus driver using host GPU
>>>>>>> drivers that are utilizing TTM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Based on a patch proposed by Trigger Huang.
>>>>>> Well I can't count how often I have repeated this: This is an
>>>>>> absolutely
>>>>>> clear NAK!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TTM pages are not reference counted in the first place and because of
>>>>>> this giving them to virgl is illegal.
>>>>> A? The first page is refcounted when allocated, the tail pages are not.
>>>> No they aren't. The first page is just by coincident initialized with
>>>> a refcount of 1. This refcount is completely ignored and not used at all.
>>>>
>>>> Incrementing the reference count and by this mapping the page into
>>>> some other address space is illegal and corrupts the internal state
>>>> tracking of TTM.
>>> See this comment in the source code as well:
>>>
>>>          /* Don't set the __GFP_COMP flag for higher order allocations.
>>>           * Mapping pages directly into an userspace process and calling
>>>           * put_page() on a TTM allocated page is illegal.
>>>           */
>>>
>>> I have absolutely no idea how somebody had the idea he could do this.
>> I saw this comment, but it doesn't make sense because it doesn't explain
>> why it's illegal. Hence it looks like a bogus comment since the
>> refcouting certainly works, at least to a some degree because I haven't
>> noticed any problems in practice, maybe by luck :)
>>
>> I'll try to dig out the older discussions, thank you for the quick reply!
> Are you sure it was really discussed in public previously? All I can
> find is yours two answers to a similar patches where you're saying that
> this it's a wrong solution without in-depth explanation and further
> discussions.

Yeah, that's my problem as well I can't find that of hand.

But yes it certainly was discussed in public.

>
> Maybe it was discussed privately? In this case I will be happy to get
> more info from you about the root of the problem so I could start to
> look at how to fix it properly. It's not apparent where the problem is
> to a TTM newbie like me.
>

Well this is completely unfixable. See the whole purpose of TTM is to 
allow tracing where what is mapped of a buffer object.

If you circumvent that and increase the page reference yourself than 
that whole functionality can't work correctly any more.

Regards,
Christian.

  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-15 10:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-15  9:54 [PATCH v1] drm/ttm: Refcount allocated tail pages Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 10:05 ` Christian König
2022-08-15 10:09   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 10:11     ` Christian König
2022-08-15 10:14       ` Christian König
2022-08-15 10:18         ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 10:42           ` Christian König
2022-08-15 10:47           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 10:51             ` Christian König [this message]
2022-08-15 11:19               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 11:28                 ` Christian König
2022-08-15 11:50                   ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 13:06                     ` Christian König
2022-08-15 13:45                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 13:53                         ` Christian König
2022-08-15 14:57                           ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-15 15:54                             ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-17 22:57                               ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-17 23:13                                 ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-08-18  9:41                                   ` Christian König
2023-01-11 17:05                                     ` Sean Christopherson
2023-01-11 21:24                                       ` Dmitry Osipenko
2022-09-06 20:01   ` Daniel Vetter
2022-09-06 20:05     ` Daniel Vetter
2022-09-07  6:48       ` Christian König
2023-01-11 17:13       ` Sean Christopherson
2022-09-08 11:04     ` Rob Clark

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