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From: Xiao Guangrong <guangrong.xiao@linux.intel.com>
To: Neo Jia <cjia@nvidia.com>
Cc: "Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Kirti Wankhede" <kwankhede@nvidia.com>,
	"Andrea Arcangeli" <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	"Radim Krčmář" <rkrcmar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] KVM: MMU: support VMAs that got remap_pfn_range-ed
Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2016 16:54:25 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <577A2441.4090006@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <577A2211.2030906@linux.intel.com>



On 07/04/2016 04:45 PM, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>
>
> On 07/04/2016 04:41 PM, Neo Jia wrote:
>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 04:19:20PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 07/04/2016 03:53 PM, Neo Jia wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 03:37:35PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 07/04/2016 03:03 PM, Neo Jia wrote:
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 04, 2016 at 02:39:22PM +0800, Xiao Guangrong wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/30/2016 09:01 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>>>>>> The vGPU folks would like to trap the first access to a BAR by setting
>>>>>>>> vm_ops on the VMAs produced by mmap-ing a VFIO device.  The fault handler
>>>>>>>> then can use remap_pfn_range to place some non-reserved pages in the VMA.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why does it require fetching the pfn when the fault is triggered rather
>>>>>>> than when mmap() is called?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Guangrong,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> as such mapping information between virtual mmio to physical mmio is only available
>>>>>> at runtime.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, i do not know what the different between mmap() and the time VM actually
>>>>> accesses the memory for your case. Could you please more detail?
>>>>
>>>> Hi Guangrong,
>>>>
>>>> Sure. The mmap() gets called by qemu or any VFIO API userspace consumer when
>>>> setting up the virtual mmio, at that moment nobody has any knowledge about how
>>>> the physical mmio gets virtualized.
>>>>
>>>> When the vm (or application if we don't want to limit ourselves to vmm term)
>>>> starts, the virtual and physical mmio gets mapped by mpci kernel module with the
>>>> help from vendor supplied mediated host driver according to the hw resource
>>>> assigned to this vm / application.
>>>
>>> Thanks for your expiation.
>>>
>>> It sounds like a strategy of resource allocation, you delay the allocation until VM really
>>> accesses it, right?
>>
>> Yes, that is where the fault handler inside mpci code comes to the picture.
>
>
> I am not sure this strategy is good. The instance is successfully created, and it is started
> successful, but the VM is crashed due to the resource of that instance is not enough. That sounds
> unreasonable.
>

Especially, you can not squeeze this kind of memory to balance the usage between all VMs. Does
this strategy still make sense?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-04  8:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-30 13:01 [PATCH 0/2] KVM: MMU: support VMAs that got remap_pfn_range-ed Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-30 13:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] KVM: MMU: prepare to support mapping of VM_IO and VM_PFNMAP frames Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-30 13:01 ` [PATCH 2/2] KVM: MMU: try to fix up page faults before giving up Paolo Bonzini
2016-06-30 21:59 ` [PATCH 0/2] KVM: MMU: support VMAs that got remap_pfn_range-ed Neo Jia
2016-07-04  6:39 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  7:03   ` Neo Jia
2016-07-04  7:37     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  7:48       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04  7:59         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  8:14           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04  8:21             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  8:48               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04  7:53       ` Neo Jia
2016-07-04  8:19         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  8:41           ` Neo Jia
2016-07-04  8:45             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04  8:54               ` Xiao Guangrong [this message]
2016-07-04  9:16               ` Neo Jia
2016-07-04 10:16                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-04 15:33                   ` Neo Jia
2016-07-05  1:19                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-05  1:35                       ` Neo Jia
2016-07-05  4:02                         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-05  5:16                           ` Neo Jia
2016-07-05  6:26                             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-05  7:30                               ` Neo Jia
2016-07-05  9:02                                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-05 15:07                                   ` Neo Jia
2016-07-06  2:22                                     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-06  4:01                                       ` Neo Jia
2016-07-04  7:38   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-04  7:40     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-05  5:41 ` Neo Jia
2016-07-05 12:18   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-05 14:02     ` Neo Jia
2016-07-06  2:00     ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-06  2:18       ` Neo Jia
2016-07-06  2:35         ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-06  2:57           ` Neo Jia
2016-07-06  4:02             ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-06 11:48               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-07  2:36                 ` Xiao Guangrong
2016-07-06  6:05       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-07-06 15:50         ` Alex Williamson

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