From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>, Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] locking/mutex: Add waiter parameter to mutex_optimistic_spin()
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:36:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AA1493.6090200@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160808172659.GX6862@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>
On 08/08/2016 01:26 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 04:39:24PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> @@ -302,22 +306,42 @@ static inline bool mutex_try_to_acquire(struct mutex *lock)
>> *
>> * Returns true when the lock was taken, otherwise false, indicating
>> * that we need to jump to the slowpath and sleep.
>> + *
>> + * The waiter flag is set to true if the spinner is a waiter in the wait
>> + * queue. As the waiter has slept for a while, it should have priority to
>> + * get the lock over the regular spinners. So going to wait at the end of
>> + * the OSQ isn't fair to the waiter.
> If the OSQ lock were a full FIFO it would in fact be fair, but its not
> and things can drop out the middle and go (back) to sleep.
>
> This has nothing to do with the end or not.
Yes, the OSQ is not strictly FIFO, but the wait queue is. There is a
much higher chance of lock starvation if the waiter is put at the end of
the OSQ instead of in front of it. I will change the wordings to
illustrate this fact.
>> Instead, it will spin on the lock
>> + * directly and concurrently with the spinner at the head of the OSQ, if
>> + * present.
> Note that this isn't starvation proof in any way.
Patch 1 by itself isn't starvation-proof. Coupled with patch 3 that put
the waiter-spinner in front of OSQ, we will have a much higher chance to
avoid lock starvation. We can also completely block optimistic spinning
if the waiter can't get the lock after a certain number of wakeup-sleep
cycles, if the goal is to make it starvation proof.
>
>> There may be a bit more cacheline contention in this case.
> This is relevant how ?
It is just that there will be one more CPU contending on the lock cacheline.
>
>> + * The waiter also needs to set the lock to -1 instead of 0 on lock
>> + * acquisition.
> This is unrelated to the previous bits and thus should not be in the
> same paragraph. Also, a 'why' would be more helpful.
Will explain a bit more in the comments.
Regards,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-09 17:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 20:39 [PATCH v4 0/3] locking/mutex: Enable optimistic spinning of lock waiter Waiman Long
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] locking/mutex: Add waiter parameter to mutex_optimistic_spin() Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 17:36 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] locking/mutex: Enable optimistic spinning of woken task in wait queue Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 17:49 ` Waiman Long
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] locking/mutex: Ensure forward progress of waiter-spinner Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:37 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 18:00 ` Waiman Long
2016-08-10 9:29 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 17:51 ` Waiman Long
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