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From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Ding Tianhong <dingtianhong@huawei.com>,
	Jason Low <jason.low2@hpe.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@us.ibm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Tim Chen <tim.c.chen@linux.intel.com>,
	Imre Deak <imre.deak@intel.com>, Waiman Long <Waiman.Long@hp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/3] locking/mutex: Add waiter parameter to mutex_optimistic_spin()
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2016 13:36:19 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57AA1493.6090200@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160808172659.GX6862@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 08/08/2016 01:26 PM, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 04:39:24PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
>> @@ -302,22 +306,42 @@ static inline bool mutex_try_to_acquire(struct mutex *lock)
>>    *
>>    * Returns true when the lock was taken, otherwise false, indicating
>>    * that we need to jump to the slowpath and sleep.
>> + *
>> + * The waiter flag is set to true if the spinner is a waiter in the wait
>> + * queue. As the waiter has slept for a while, it should have priority to
>> + * get the lock over the regular spinners. So going to wait at the end of
>> + * the OSQ isn't fair to the waiter.
> If the OSQ lock were a full FIFO it would in fact be fair, but its not
> and things can drop out the middle and go (back) to sleep.
>
> This has nothing to do with the end or not.

Yes, the OSQ is not strictly FIFO, but the wait queue is. There is a 
much higher chance of lock starvation if the waiter is put at the end of 
the OSQ instead of in front of it. I will change the wordings to 
illustrate this fact.

>> Instead, it will spin on the lock
>> + * directly and concurrently with the spinner at the head of the OSQ, if
>> + * present.
> Note that this isn't starvation proof in any way.

Patch 1 by itself isn't starvation-proof. Coupled with patch 3 that put 
the waiter-spinner in front of OSQ, we will have a much higher chance to 
avoid lock starvation. We can also completely block optimistic spinning 
if the waiter can't get the lock after a certain number of wakeup-sleep 
cycles, if the goal is to make it starvation proof.

>
>>      There may be a bit more cacheline contention in this case.
> This is relevant how ?

It is just that there will be one more CPU contending on the lock cacheline.

>
>> + * The waiter also needs to set the lock to -1 instead of 0 on lock
>> + * acquisition.
> This is unrelated to the previous bits and thus should not be in the
> same paragraph. Also, a 'why' would be more helpful.

Will explain a bit more in the comments.

Regards,
Longman

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-09 17:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-18 20:39 [PATCH v4 0/3] locking/mutex: Enable optimistic spinning of lock waiter Waiman Long
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] locking/mutex: Add waiter parameter to mutex_optimistic_spin() Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 17:36     ` Waiman Long [this message]
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] locking/mutex: Enable optimistic spinning of woken task in wait queue Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:29   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 17:49     ` Waiman Long
2016-07-18 20:39 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] locking/mutex: Ensure forward progress of waiter-spinner Waiman Long
2016-08-08 17:37   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-09 18:00     ` Waiman Long
2016-08-10  9:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-08-10 17:51         ` Waiman Long

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