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From: Sebastian Frias <sf84@laposte.net>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: devicetree <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	Mason <slash.tmp@free.fr>, Timur Tabi <timur@tabi.org>,
	Linux ARM <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: ARM, SoC: About the use DT-defined properties by 3rd-party drivers
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 10:24:51 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D90953.9030701@laposte.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160913154722.GD23336@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On 09/13/2016 05:47 PM, Mark Rutland wrote:
>>> If you believe that the bindings don't matter, then there is absolutely
>>> no reason for them to exist in the first place.
>>>
>>> If those binding matter to *anyone*, then those collating the bindings
>>> have some responsibility of stewardship, and that includes
>>> review/maintenance/etc.
>>
>> The thing is that right now it seems the "responsibility of stewardship"
>> lies only within "Linux", whereas DT is proposed as open for everybody,
>> Bootloaders, FreeBSD, etc.
>>
>> In that case, shouldn't the "responsibility" be shared?
> 
> Ideally, yes.
> 
> Which is one of the reasons devicetree.org was set up as a common forum
> for projects to collaborate on devicetree.

I see, what about using different 'sections' on a DT to allow different
parties be responsible for their 'section'?

- 'generic' sections (i.e.: those using bindings used by Linux drivers)
would be under stewardship of Linux.

- 'specific' sections (i.e.: my example, bindings *not used by Linux*, but
they could be bindings for other OSs as you said) would be under a
different stewardship.

DT seems essentially free-form, like XML.
One could imagine that some tool could then be used to guarantee that
some parts of DT conform to a given XML schema, including backwards
compatibility, while at the same time ignoring 'staging'/'specific' stuff.

NOTE: this appears to be possible using 'overlays' as Warner suggested, but
in that case not all parts are public, which limits public information.

Best regards,

Sebastian

      reply	other threads:[~2016-09-14  8:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-24 14:29 ARM,SoC: About the use DT-defined properties by 3rd-party drivers Sebastian Frias
2016-08-28 20:36 ` Timur Tabi
2016-09-12 12:29   ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-12 12:38     ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-12 13:15       ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-12 13:23         ` Timur Tabi
2016-09-12 14:01         ` ARM, SoC: " Mark Rutland
2016-09-12 14:26           ` Warner Losh
2016-09-12 16:29             ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-12 16:45               ` Warner Losh
2016-09-12 16:49                 ` Timur Tabi
2016-09-12 17:07                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-12 17:06                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-12 16:07           ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-12 16:21             ` Timur Tabi
2016-09-12 16:26             ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-12 16:56             ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-13 10:04               ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-13 11:37                 ` Timur Tabi
2016-09-13 13:23                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-13 13:12                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-13 14:22                   ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-13 14:51                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-14  8:32                       ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-13 14:55                   ` Sebastian Frias
2016-09-13 15:47                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-09-14  8:24                       ` Sebastian Frias [this message]

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