From: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hpe.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Scott J Norton <scott.norton@hpe.com>,
Douglas Hatch <doug.hatch@hpe.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] random: Fix kernel panic due to system_wq use before init
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:24:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <57D9A400.2010501@hpe.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFx0vPuMuxn00rBSM192n-Du5uxy+4AvKa0SBSOVJeuCGg@mail.gmail.com>
On 09/14/2016 03:14 PM, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> Ugh, I detest this patch.
>
> My gut feeling is that a driver (even a fairly core one like the
> random code) should not have to know these kinds of details like
> "schedule_work() needs system_wq to have been initialized".
>
> I'm wondering if we couldn't just initialize "system_wq" earlier.
> Right now init_workqueues() is an "early_initcall()", so it's at the
> same priority as a number of other random early initcalls. My gut
> feeling is that it should be initialized even earlier, with the
> scheduler.
>
> Because dammit, we use "schedule_work()" as if it was a pretty core
> scheduler thing, and having to have some odd knowledge of system_wq
> initialization details in the rest of the kernel sounds really really
> wrong.
>
> I don't think the random code is at all special in maybe wanting to
> schedule some work despite being an "early" initcall.
>
> Adding Tejun to the cc, and quoting the whole email.
>
> Tejun, comments?
>
> Linus
>
>
My patch does not really fix the boot problem as detailed in my
follow-up email. It serves mostly to jump start the discussion on the
problem that I saw. The schedule_work() call was issued as part of
interrupt handling that seems to be started pretty early in the boot
process before the early_initcall. I guess it is possible to move the
initialization earlier, but I am not sure where will be a good place.
Cheers,
Longman
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-09-14 19:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-09-14 19:03 [PATCH] random: Fix kernel panic due to system_wq use before init Waiman Long
2016-09-14 19:14 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-14 19:24 ` Waiman Long [this message]
2016-09-14 19:55 ` Tejun Heo
2016-09-14 22:26 ` Tejun Heo
2016-09-14 19:14 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-14 19:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-14 19:34 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-14 21:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-09-14 22:15 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-19 3:09 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-19 9:25 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-19 12:43 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-19 14:48 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-19 14:51 ` Matt Fleming
2016-09-19 17:09 ` Waiman Long
2016-09-20 14:04 ` Matt Fleming
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