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From: Pascal Chapperon <pascal.chapperon@wanadoo.fr>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fedoraproject.org
Subject: Re: RCU related performance regression in 3.3
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2012 11:18:03 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <588810225.17969.1333703883646.JavaMail.www@wwinf1g24> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120405143918.GE27672@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

> Message du 05/04/12 16:40
> De : "Paul E. McKenney" 
> A : "Pascal CHAPPERON" 
> Copie à : "Josh Boyer" , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kernel-team@fedoraproject.org
> Objet : Re: RCU related performance regression in 3.3
> 
> On Thu, Apr 05, 2012 at 04:15:33PM +0200, Pascal CHAPPERON wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I didn't notice any significant slowdown while the system is up and running. 
A full kernel compilation (make -j 16) takes 14mn with both 3.2.10 and 3.3.0.
> 
> OK, so the natural approach is to disable CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ at
> boot time. Unfortunately, you appear to need it to remain disabled
> through at least filesystem mounting, which if I understand correctly
> happens long after system_state gets set to SYSTEM_RUNNING.
> 
In fact, I need it to remain disable until all the systemd units are completed. 
Some units, such as NetworkManager can take longer time to complete with
RCU_FAST_NO_HZ enabled.
And i need it to be disabled at shutdown, as umounting cgroups, sysfs, etc.
plus old-root mounting can take one plain second for each umounting.

> If RCU has some way to find out when init is complete, I can easily
> make it so that CONFIG_RCU_FAST_NO_HZ optimizes for speed during boot
> and energy efficiency during runtime.
> 
I said that I didn't noticed significant slowdown during runtime, but my
laptop usage is basic. Some specific tasks similar to systemd may 
perhaps be impacted by this feature.
I can test a task/program that could stress RCU_FAST_NO_HZ if any ?

> One thing I could easily do would be to provide a sysfs parameter or
> some such that allows the boot process to enable energy-efficiency
> mode at runtime. I would much prefer to make this automatic, though.
> 
So the feature is disabled until you trigger a sysfs parameter, and can be
disabled before shutdown ? It would be fair, at least for hardware like my
own.

> Other thoughts?
> 
Do you think that the culprit is a buggy hardware in my laptop, or the 
number of cpu/threads ?

> Thanx, Paul
> 

Resent in plain text because rejected. Sorry, i forgot the rules.

Pascal

  reply	other threads:[~2012-04-06  9:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-04 15:27 RCU related performance regression in 3.3 Josh Boyer
2012-04-04 21:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 12:37   ` Josh Boyer
2012-04-05 14:00     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-05 14:15       ` Pascal CHAPPERON
2012-04-05 14:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-06  9:18           ` Pascal Chapperon [this message]
2012-04-10 16:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-11 15:06               ` Pascal
2012-04-12 18:04                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-16 21:02                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-18  9:37                     ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-18 14:01                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-18 15:00                         ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-18 15:23                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-04-20 14:45                             ` Pascal Chapperon
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2012-04-27 12:15 Pascal Chapperon
2012-04-28  3:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-01  0:02   ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-01  8:55     ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-01 15:45       ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-04 14:42         ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-04 15:04           ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-04 21:41             ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-04 23:14               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-10  8:40                 ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-14 22:32                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-18 11:01                   ` Pascal Chapperon
2012-05-18 12:14                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-18 14:48                       ` Pascal Chapperon

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