From: Pavel Emelyanov <xemul@virtuozzo.com>
To: Alexey Gladkov <gladkov.alexey@gmail.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@openwall.com>,
Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
"Dmitry V. Levin" <ldv@altlinux.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add pidfs filesystem
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:08:37 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <58AD8D55.5030802@virtuozzo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170222120430.GF3279@comp-core-i7-2640m-0182e6.fortress>
On 02/22/2017 03:04 PM, Alexey Gladkov wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:40:49AM +0300, Pavel Emelyanov wrote:
>> On 02/21/2017 05:57 PM, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
>>> On 02/18, Alexey Gladkov wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This patch allows to mount only the part of /proc related to pids
>>>> without rest objects. Since this is an addon to /proc, flags applied to
>>>> /proc have an effect on this pidfs filesystem.
>>>
>>> I leave this to you and Eric, but imo it would be nice to avoid another
>>> filesystem.
>>>
>>>> Why not implement it as another flag to /proc ?
>>>>
>>>> The /proc flags is stored in the pid_namespace and are global for
>>>> namespace. It means that if you add a flag to hide all except the pids,
>>>> then it will act on all mounted instances of /proc.
>>>
>>> But perhaps we can use mnt_flags? For example, lets abuse MNT_NODEV, see
>>> the simple patch below. Not sure it is correct/complete, just to illustrate
>>> the idea.
>>>
>>> With this patch you can mount proc with -onodev and it will only show
>>> pids/self/thread_self:
>>>
>>> # mkdir /tmp/D
>>> # mount -t proc -o nodev none /tmp/D
>>> # ls /tmp/D
>>> 1 11 13 15 17 19 20 22 24 28 3 31 33 4 56 7 9 thread-self
>>> 10 12 14 16 18 2 21 23 27 29 30 32 34 5 6 8 self
>>> # cat /tmp/D/meminfo
>>> cat: /tmp/D/meminfo: No such file or directory
>>> # ls /tmp/D/irq
>>> ls: cannot open directory /tmp/D/irq: No such file or directory
>>>
>>> No?
>>
>> Yes!!! If this whole effort with pidfs and overlayfs will move forward, I would
>> prefer seeing the nodev procfs version, rather than another fs.
>
> But this is not procfs anymore. If someone will wait for procfs here it will
> be disappointed :)
Well, it depends on what files he's looking for in there. This is what overlay
part should come for.
>> As far as the overlayfs part is concerned, having an overlayfs mounted on /proc
>> inside container may result in problems as applications sometimes check for /proc
>> containing procfs (by checking statfs.f_type == PROC_SUPER_MAGIC or by reading
>> the /proc/mounts).
>
> It is not a replacement for procfs. It's a subset of procfs. If someone wants
> the procfs in the code we should not deceive him.
>
> No?
But this is what we actually do -- Docker does with bind-mounts, LXC does with lxcfs,
OpenVZ does with kernel patches. Every time a container starts the regular /proc is
mutated not to show some information.
-- Pavel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-02-22 13:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-02-18 22:53 [PATCH] Add pidfs filesystem Alexey Gladkov
2017-02-18 23:34 ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-18 23:34 ` kbuild test robot
2017-02-20 4:05 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-02-20 10:36 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-02-22 20:11 ` Richard Weinberger
2017-02-21 14:57 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-22 7:40 ` Pavel Emelyanov
2017-02-22 12:04 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-02-22 13:08 ` Pavel Emelyanov [this message]
2017-02-22 11:53 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-02-22 15:37 ` Dmitry V. Levin
2017-02-22 17:48 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-02-22 19:56 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-06 23:05 ` [RFC] Add option to mount only a pids subset Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-07 16:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-09 11:26 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-03-09 20:52 ` Eric W. Biederman
2017-03-11 21:51 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-11 0:05 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-07 17:49 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-10 23:46 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-12 1:54 ` Al Viro
2017-03-12 2:13 ` Al Viro
2017-03-13 3:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-13 13:27 ` Al Viro
2017-03-13 15:24 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-03-23 15:59 ` [PATCH] proc: allow to change proc mount options per mount Djalal Harouni
2017-03-20 12:58 ` [RFC] Add option to mount only a pids subset Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-23 16:05 ` Oleg Nesterov
2017-03-23 22:57 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-23 16:06 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-03-23 22:07 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-03-26 7:03 ` Djalal Harouni
2017-03-30 21:45 ` Alexey Gladkov
2017-02-27 18:56 ` [PATCH] Add pidfs filesystem Michael Kerrisk
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