From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org via listexpand id S932297AbVHOMxl (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:53:41 -0400 Received: (majordomo@vger.kernel.org) by vger.kernel.org id S1751093AbVHOMxl (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:53:41 -0400 Received: from nproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.182.194]:64290 "EHLO nproxy.gmail.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1750741AbVHOMxk convert rfc822-to-8bit (ORCPT ); Mon, 15 Aug 2005 08:53:40 -0400 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=TSxOwQfbjY5/q2dEDn6T1lCz1tvoIYop8HkYRe5JSshVN59nd0595Ud6AoXM1h1piMgYYVvnQSmOeOzu3gL+xfSJCWvLSSkT1ZmOhxRECgKc44q+QXDudb7QIGPqhnPQ/SDkqRRdkIh41ygGSGUb0XXBRQdMEDcPdN5cYC0A23M= Message-ID: <58cb370e0508150553d4aed03@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2005 14:53:38 +0200 From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz To: Alan Cox Subject: Re: rc6 keeps hanging and blanking displays where rc4-mm1 works fine. Cc: Helge Hafting , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Dave Airlie , Linus Torvalds , akpm@osdl.org In-Reply-To: <1123842774.22460.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Content-Disposition: inline References: <20050805104025.GA14688@aitel.hist.no> <21d7e99705080503515e3045d5@mail.gmail.com> <42F89F79.1060103@aitel.hist.no> <42FC7372.7040607@aitel.hist.no> <1123842774.22460.22.camel@localhost.localdomain> Sender: linux-kernel-owner@vger.kernel.org X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org On 8/12/05, Alan Cox wrote: > On Gwe, 2005-08-12 at 12:01 +0200, Helge Hafting wrote: > > solveable by resizing. But the machine will occationally hang, forcing > > me to > > use the reset button. I lost my mbox file to this (from an ext3 fs, on > > raid-1 on scsi.) > > Unless you are using data=journal and have turned write cache off on > your IDE drives that is expected. Metadata journalling protects your > file system intgerity. Data journalling is more expensive but will > protect your file integrity if the disk layer is also correctly set up. > Unfortunately the IDE layer defaults the wrong way and despite many > complaints has not been changed. In later 2.6 with modern drives you can Changing defaults is not that easy, disabling write-cache shortens HDD life considerably (discussed on LKML). Recommend solution is to disable write-cache w/ hdparm or use barrier mode. > also enable barrier mode on the IDE layer which gives better results > than turning off the write cache.