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From: Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <bzolnier@gmail.com>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Greg Felix <greg.felix@gmail.com>,
	Oliver Tennert <O.Tennert@science-computing.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: IDE HPA
Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:30:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <58cb370e050830173044b86233@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1125421518.8276.45.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On 8/30/05, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
> On Maw, 2005-08-30 at 18:16 +0200, Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz wrote:
> > HPA shouldn't be disabled by default and new kernel parameter ("hdx=hpa")
> > should be added for disabling HPA (yep, people with buggy BIOS-es will
> > have to add this parameter to their kernel command line, sorry).
> 
> Thats large numbers of systems. Large numbers of disks as strapped for
> 32GB and other clipping arrangements. With a vendor hat on thats
> unworkable because
> 
> a) It will stop thousands of people installing their systems
> b) Many users will get horrible corruption when they update the kernel
> and their box explodes as the fs tries to write to areas of disk that
> have vanished mysteriously.
> 
> (and we know all about this because ancient kernels had options for
> doing this in the compile that burned people)
> 
> So its a very bad idea indeed. A boot option for not disabling the hpa
> is possibly sensible for a few users who want that, or simply getting
> them to fix their buggy user space app would be even simpler.

OK, boot option for disabling HPA for users that want it is a indeed most
sensible approach.

> The only way I can see to truely automate it for most cases would be to
> snoop the partition table if its MSDOS format and see if the table
> matches the HPA clipped disk or the non-HPA clipped disk. If it matches
> the HPA clipped disk then you know not to fiddle. Otherwise its either a
> new disk, clipped by the 32GB jumper, non-x86 disk etc in which case you
> might as well disable any HPA.
> 
> Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-08-31  0:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <87941b4c05082913101e15ddda@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found] ` <200508300859.19701.tennert@science-computing.de>
2005-08-30 15:52   ` IDE HPA Greg Felix
2005-08-30 16:16     ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz
2005-08-30 17:05       ` Alan Cox
2005-08-31  0:30         ` Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz [this message]
2005-08-30 16:38     ` Alan Cox
     [not found]       ` <87941b4c050830095111bf484e@mail.gmail.com>
2005-09-02  7:27         ` Molle Bestefich
2005-09-02 13:05           ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 13:33             ` Molle Bestefich
2005-09-02 14:35               ` Matthew Garrett
2005-09-02 16:24                 ` Molle Bestefich
2005-09-02 17:05                   ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 17:44                     ` Molle Bestefich
2005-09-02 18:04                       ` Matthew Garrett
2005-09-02 18:09                       ` Peter Jones
2005-09-02 18:59                         ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 19:14                           ` Peter Jones
2005-09-02 20:22                             ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 21:14                               ` Peter Jones
2005-09-03  0:05                                 ` Alan Cox
2005-09-03 23:31                                 ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-07 14:52                                   ` Bill Davidsen
2005-09-03  0:03                               ` Pekka Pietikainen
2005-09-02 18:57                       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-02 17:57                     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2005-09-02 14:50               ` Alan Cox

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