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From: "Huang, Kai" <kai.huang@intel.com>
To: "Hansen, Dave" <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	"seanjc@google.com" <seanjc@google.com>,
	"bp@alien8.de" <bp@alien8.de>,
	"peterz@infradead.org" <peterz@infradead.org>,
	"hpa@zytor.com" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	"mingo@redhat.com" <mingo@redhat.com>,
	"Williams, Dan J" <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com"
	<kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	"pbonzini@redhat.com" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"tglx@linutronix.de" <tglx@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Yamahata, Isaku" <isaku.yamahata@intel.com>,
	"nik.borisov@suse.com" <nik.borisov@suse.com>,
	"Hunter, Adrian" <adrian.hunter@intel.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Edgecombe, Rick P" <rick.p.edgecombe@intel.com>,
	"x86@kernel.org" <x86@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 8.2/9] x86/virt/tdx: Reduce TDMR's reserved areas by using CMRs to find memory holes
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 04:24:22 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <5bbdf95daad0fd5178b50eb50ba95eb6de801c29.camel@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <6757aba1e072f_3e0fe294a5@dwillia2-mobl3.amr.corp.intel.com.notmuch>

On Mon, 2024-12-09 at 18:46 -0800, Dan Williams wrote:
> Huang, Kai wrote:
> [..]
> > > So in the end, I buy that the CMR's have something to offer here. But I
> > > think that "why" I mentioned above casts doubt on whether
> > > for_each_mem_pfn_range() is the right primitive on which to build the
> > > TDX memblocks in the first place.
> > 
> > We can change to just use CMRs as TDX memory blocks, i.e., always cover all CMRs
> > in TDMRs, but this will have much wider impact.
> > 
> > The main concern is the PAMT allocation: PAMT is allocated from page allocator,
> > but the CMRs -- the RAM as defined by the platform and the TDX module - - can
> > cover more, and sometimes much more, regions than the regions end up to the page
> > allocator.
> > 
> > E.g., today we can use 'memmap=' to reserve part of memory for other purpose. 
> > And in the future CMRs may cover CXL memory regions which could be much larger
> > IIUC.
> 
> Please do not point to memmap= as a reason to complicate the TDX
> initialization. memmap= is a debug / expert feature where the user gets
> to keep all the pieces if they get it wrong.
> 
> Please do not point to theoretical CXL futures as a reason not to do the
> right thing in TDX initialization. The CXL TEE Security Protocol makes
> CXL memory indistinguishable from DDR. It is layering violation for TDX
> module initialization to add complexity and policy assumptions as if it
> knows better than the published CMRs what memory resources are available
> in the platform.

OK.  Thanks for all the feedback.

> 
> Please drop my reviewed-by on this patch until we have a solution and a
> simple story for the recently discovered problems that CMR enumeration
> solves. This includes reserve-area population and disambiguating
> reserve-area enumeration from late-to-online memory resources.

OK.  I would like to get the solution agreed.  IIUC you prefer to just using
CMRs to build TDX-usable memory regions when constructing TDMRs.  Please let me
know if I have misunderstanding.

Hi Dave,

Please let me know if you are OK with this solution?


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-10  4:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-13 11:57 [PATCH v8 0/9] TDX host: metadata reading tweaks and bug fixes Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 1/9] x86/virt/tdx: Rename 'struct tdx_tdmr_sysinfo' to reflect the spec better Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 2/9] x86/virt/tdx: Start to track all global metadata in one structure Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 3/9] x86/virt/tdx: Use auto-generated code to read global metadata Kai Huang
2024-12-13 11:17   ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 4/9] x86/virt/tdx: Use dedicated struct members for PAMT entry sizes Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 5/9] x86/virt/tdx: Add missing header file inclusion to local tdx.h Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 6/9] x86/virt/tdx: Switch to use auto-generated global metadata reading code Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 7/9] x86/virt/tdx: Trim away tail null CMRs Kai Huang
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 8/9] x86/virt/tdx: Reduce TDMR's reserved areas by using CMRs to find memory holes Kai Huang
2024-12-04 14:22   ` Huang, Kai
2024-12-05 12:45     ` Huang, Kai
2024-12-05 12:40   ` [PATCH v8 8.1/9] " Kai Huang
2024-12-05 18:10     ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-06  2:45       ` Huang, Kai
2024-12-09  6:57       ` Huang, Kai
2024-12-09  6:50   ` [PATCH v8 8.2/9] " Kai Huang
2024-12-09 22:54     ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-10  2:26       ` Huang, Kai
2024-12-10  2:46         ` Dan Williams
2024-12-10  4:24           ` Huang, Kai [this message]
2024-12-10 16:58             ` Dave Hansen
2024-12-11  4:34               ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-13 11:57 ` [PATCH v8 9/9] x86/virt/tdx: Require the module to assert it has the NO_RBP_MOD mitigation Kai Huang
2024-11-13 22:25 ` [PATCH v8 0/9] TDX host: metadata reading tweaks and bug fixes Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-13 22:40   ` Huang, Kai
2024-11-13 22:53     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2024-11-13 23:35       ` Huang, Kai

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