From: "Ilpo Järvinen" <ilpo.jarvinen@linux.intel.com>
To: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
Cc: fenghua.yu@intel.com, shuah@kernel.org, tony.luck@intel.com,
peternewman@google.com, babu.moger@amd.com,
"Maciej Wieczór-Retman" <maciej.wieczor-retman@intel.com>,
linux-kselftest@vger.kernel.org,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/6] selftests/resctrl: Do not compare performance counters and resctrl at low bandwidth
Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2024 14:42:43 +0300 (EEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <5d063290-9da4-c9ca-e5c5-cb0083d7483f@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9bbefa3b9a62319698907d10e8b78f1b999c311b.1724970211.git.reinette.chatre@intel.com>
On Thu, 29 Aug 2024, Reinette Chatre wrote:
> The MBA test incrementally throttles memory bandwidth, each time
> followed by a comparison between the memory bandwidth observed
> by the performance counters and resctrl respectively.
>
> While a comparison between performance counters and resctrl is
> generally appropriate, they do not have an identical view of
> memory bandwidth. For example RAS features or memory performance
> features that generate memory traffic may drive accesses that are
> counted differently by performance counters and MBM respectively,
> for instance generating "overhead" traffic which is not counted
> against any specific RMID. As a ratio, this different view of memory
> bandwidth becomes more apparent at low memory bandwidths.
Interesting.
I did some time back prototype with a change to MBM test such that instead
of using once=false I changed fill_buf to be able to run N passes through
the buffer which allowed me to know how many reads were performed by the
benchmark. This yielded numerical difference between all those 3 values
(# of reads, MBM, perf) which also varied from arch to another so it
didn't end up making an usable test.
I guess I now have an explanation for at least a part of the differences.
> It is not practical to enable/disable the various features that
> may generate memory bandwidth to give performance counters and
> resctrl an identical view. Instead, do not compare performance
> counters and resctrl view of memory bandwidth when the memory
> bandwidth is low.
>
> Bandwidth throttling behaves differently across platforms
> so it is not appropriate to drop measurement data simply based
> on the throttling level. Instead, use a threshold of 750MiB
> that has been observed to support adequate comparison between
> performance counters and resctrl.
>
> Signed-off-by: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
> ---
> tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c | 7 +++++++
> tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h | 6 ++++++
> 2 files changed, 13 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
> index cad473b81a64..204b9ac4b108 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/mba_test.c
> @@ -96,6 +96,13 @@ static bool show_mba_info(unsigned long *bw_imc, unsigned long *bw_resc)
>
> avg_bw_imc = sum_bw_imc / (NUM_OF_RUNS - 1);
> avg_bw_resc = sum_bw_resc / (NUM_OF_RUNS - 1);
> + if (avg_bw_imc < THROTTLE_THRESHOLD || avg_bw_resc < THROTTLE_THRESHOLD) {
> + ksft_print_msg("Bandwidth below threshold (%d MiB). Dropping results from MBA schemata %u.\n",
> + THROTTLE_THRESHOLD,
> + ALLOCATION_MAX - ALLOCATION_STEP * allocation);
The second one too should be %d.
--
i.
> + break;
> + }
> +
> avg_diff = (float)labs(avg_bw_resc - avg_bw_imc) / avg_bw_imc;
> avg_diff_per = (int)(avg_diff * 100);
>
> diff --git a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h
> index 0e5456165a6a..e65c5fb76b17 100644
> --- a/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h
> +++ b/tools/testing/selftests/resctrl/resctrl.h
> @@ -43,6 +43,12 @@
>
> #define DEFAULT_SPAN (250 * MB)
>
> +/*
> + * Memory bandwidth (in MiB) below which the bandwidth comparisons
> + * between iMC and resctrl are considered unreliable.
> + */
> +#define THROTTLE_THRESHOLD 750
> +
> /*
> * user_params: User supplied parameters
> * @cpu: CPU number to which the benchmark will be bound to
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-08-30 11:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-08-29 22:52 [PATCH 0/6] selftests/resctrl: Support diverse platforms with MBM and MBA tests Reinette Chatre
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 1/6] selftests/resctrl: Fix sparse warnings Reinette Chatre
2024-08-30 10:29 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 2/6] selftests/resctrl: Ensure measurements skip initialization of default benchmark Reinette Chatre
2024-08-30 10:56 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-30 16:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-04 11:57 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-04 21:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-05 12:10 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-05 18:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-06 10:00 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-07 0:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-09 12:52 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 3/6] selftests/resctrl: Simplify benchmark parameter passing Reinette Chatre
2024-08-30 11:13 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-30 16:01 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 4/6] selftests/resctrl: Use cache size to determine "fill_buf" buffer size Reinette Chatre
2024-08-30 11:25 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-30 16:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 5/6] selftests/resctrl: Do not compare performance counters and resctrl at low bandwidth Reinette Chatre
2024-08-30 11:42 ` Ilpo Järvinen [this message]
2024-08-30 16:00 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-04 11:43 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-04 21:15 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-05 11:45 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-05 18:08 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-06 8:44 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-09-07 0:05 ` Reinette Chatre
2024-09-09 8:13 ` Ilpo Järvinen
2024-08-29 22:52 ` [PATCH 6/6] selftests/resctrl: Keep results from first test run Reinette Chatre
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