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From: Baolu Lu <baolu.lu@linux.intel.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>,
	Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@nvidia.com>,
	Jacob Pan <jacob.jun.pan@linux.intel.com>
Cc: baolu.lu@linux.intel.com,
	"iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"dmaengine@vger.kernel.org" <dmaengine@vger.kernel.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	Jean-Philippe Brucker <jean-philippe@linaro.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"vkoul@kernel.org" <vkoul@kernel.org>,
	"robin.murphy@arm.com" <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
	"will@kernel.org" <will@kernel.org>,
	"Liu, Yi L" <yi.l.liu@intel.com>,
	"Jiang, Dave" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Raj, Ashok" <ashok.raj@intel.com>,
	Eric Auger <eric.auger@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 1/6] iommu: Add a per domain PASID for DMA API
Date: Tue, 31 May 2022 20:45:28 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <628aa885-dd12-8bcd-bfc6-446345bf69ed@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BN9PR11MB52768105FC4FB959298F8A188CDC9@BN9PR11MB5276.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

On 2022/5/31 18:12, Tian, Kevin wrote:
>>>> +++ b/include/linux/iommu.h
>>>> @@ -105,6 +105,8 @@ struct iommu_domain {
>>>>   	enum iommu_page_response_code (*iopf_handler)(struct
>> iommu_fault *fault,
>>>>   						      void *data);
>>>>   	void *fault_data;
>>>> +	ioasid_t pasid;		/* Used for DMA requests with PASID */
>>>> +	atomic_t pasid_users;
>>> These are poorly named, this is really the DMA API global PASID and
>>> shouldn't be used for other things.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps I misunderstood, do you mind explaining more?
>> You still haven't really explained what this is for in this patch,
>> maybe it just needs a better commit message, or maybe something is
>> wrong.
>>
>> I keep saying the DMA API usage is not special, so why do we need to
>> create a new global pasid and refcount? Realistically this is only
>> going to be used by IDXD, why can't we just allocate a PASID and
>> return it to the driver every time a driver asks for DMA API on PASI
>> mode? Why does the core need to do anything special?
>>
> Agree. I guess it was a mistake caused by treating ENQCMD as the
> only user although the actual semantics of the invented interfaces
> have already evolved to be quite general.
> 
> This is very similar to what we have been discussing for iommufd.
> a PASID is just an additional routing info when attaching a device
> to an I/O address space (DMA API in this context) and by default
> it should be a per-device resource except when ENQCMD is
> explicitly opt in.
> 
> Hence it's right time for us to develop common facility working
> for both this DMA API usage and iommufd, i.e.:
> 
> for normal PASID attach to a domain, driver:
> 
> 	allocates a local pasid from device local space;
> 	attaches the local pasid to a domain;
> 
> for PASID attach in particular for ENQCMD, driver:
> 
> 	allocates a global pasid in system-wide;
> 	attaches the global pasid to a domain;
> 	set the global pasid in PASID_MSR;
> 
> In both cases the pasid is stored in the attach data instead of the
> domain.
> 
> DMA API pasid is no special from above except it needs to allow
> one device attached to the same domain twice (one with RID
> and the other with RID+PASID).
> 
> for iommufd those operations are initiated by userspace via
> iommufd uAPI.

My understanding is that device driver owns its PASID policy. If ENQCMD
is supported on the device, the PASIDs should be allocated through
ioasid_alloc(). Otherwise, the whole PASID pool is managed by the device
driver.

For kernel DMA w/ PASID, after the driver has a PASID for this purpose,
it can just set the default domain to the PASID on device. There's no
need for enable/disable() interfaces.

Best regards,
baolu

  reply	other threads:[~2022-05-31 12:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-05-18 18:21 [PATCH v4 0/6] Enable PASID for DMA API users Jacob Pan
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 1/6] iommu: Add a per domain PASID for DMA API Jacob Pan
2022-05-19  6:50   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-24 13:50   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 15:17     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-30 12:22       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-31 10:12         ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-31 12:45           ` Baolu Lu [this message]
2022-05-31 16:03             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-31 17:29             ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-31 19:05               ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-31 20:44                 ` Jacob Pan
2022-06-01  1:50                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-06-01  1:43               ` Tian, Kevin
2022-06-01  9:37                 ` Baolu Lu
2022-06-01 10:05                   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 2/6] iommu: Add a helper to do PASID lookup from domain Jacob Pan
2022-05-19  6:41   ` Baolu Lu
2022-05-19 20:10     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-19  6:48   ` Christoph Hellwig
2022-05-20 15:18     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-23  7:55   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-23  9:14   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-23 18:01     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 3/6] iommu/vt-d: Implement domain ops for attach_dev_pasid Jacob Pan
2022-05-24 13:51   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 16:12     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-24 18:02       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-24 20:45         ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-24 21:10           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 4/6] iommu: Add PASID support for DMA mapping API users Jacob Pan
2022-05-23  8:25   ` Tian, Kevin
2022-05-23 15:23     ` Jacob Pan
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 5/6] dmaengine: idxd: Use DMA API for in-kernel DMA with PASID Jacob Pan
2022-05-18 18:21 ` [PATCH v4 6/6] iommu/vt-d: Delete unused SVM flag Jacob Pan

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