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From: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
To: "Mickaël Salaün" <mic@digikod.net>
Cc: concord@gentoo.org, linux-hardening@vger.kernel.org,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
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	"Luis Chamberlain" <mcgrof@kernel.org>,
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Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Add trusted_for(2) (was O_MAYEXEC)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 11:32:23 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <63e3f8c8.050a0220.c0b3f.434b@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7e8d9f8a-f119-6d1a-7861-0493dc513aa7@digikod.net>

*thread necromancy*

On Tue, Apr 05, 2022 at 06:09:03PM +0200, Mickaël Salaün wrote:
> 
> On 05/04/2022 01:26, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 4, 2022 at 3:25 PM Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > 
> > > I think this already exists as AT_EACCESS? It was added with
> > > faccessat2() itself, if I'm reading the history correctly.
> > 
> > Yeah, I noticed myself, I just hadn't looked (and I don't do enough
> > user-space programming to be aware of if that way).
> 
> I think AT_EACCESS should be usable with the new EXECVE_OK too.
> 
> 
> > 
> > > >      (a) "what about suid bits that user space cannot react to"
> > > 
> > > What do you mean here? Do you mean setid bits on the file itself?
> > 
> > Right.
> > 
> > Maybe we don't care.
> 
> I think we don't. I think the only corner case that could be different is
> for files that are executable, SUID and non-readable. In this case it
> wouldn't matter because userspace could not read the file, which is required
> for interpretation/execution. Anyway, S[GU]ID bits in scripts are just
> ignored by execve and we want to follow the same semantic.

Hi Mickaël,

Is there a new version of this being worked on? It would be really nice
to have the O_MAYEXEC/faccessat2() visibility for script execution control
in userspace. It seems like it would be mainly a respin of an earlier
version of this series before trusted_for() was proposed.

-Kees

-- 
Kees Cook

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-02-08 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-03-21 16:15 [GIT PULL] Add trusted_for(2) (was O_MAYEXEC) Mickaël Salaün
2022-03-21 17:38 ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-21 18:05   ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-03-21 23:32     ` Luis Chamberlain
2022-03-30 16:06 ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-04 18:40 ` Kees Cook
2022-04-04 18:47   ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-04 20:30     ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-04 21:28       ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-04 21:40         ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-04 22:25         ` Kees Cook
2022-04-04 23:26           ` Linus Torvalds
2022-04-05 16:09             ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-05 16:17               ` Linus Torvalds
2023-02-08 19:32               ` Kees Cook [this message]
2023-02-09 15:43                 ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-05 22:21             ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-05 15:55           ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-05 15:38         ` Mickaël Salaün
2022-04-05 14:54       ` Theodore Ts'o
2022-04-05 16:14         ` Mickaël Salaün

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