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From: Andrei Tanas <andrei@tanas.ca>
To: Mark Lord <liml@rtr.ca>
Cc: Mark Lord <mlord@pobox.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>, NeilBrown <neilb@suse.de>,
	<linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	IDE/ATA development list <linux-ide@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: MD/RAID time out writing superblock
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 2009 09:07:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <640f6103c45b6cba6f84f887bde227e4@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A9C60A1.50303@rtr.ca>

>>>> The drive might take a longer time like this when doing error handling
>>>> (sector remapping, etc), but then I would expect to see your remapped
>>>> sector count grow.
>>>
>>> Yes, this is a possibility and according to the spec, libata EH should
>>> be retrying flushes a few times before giving up but I'm not sure
>>> whether keeping retrying for several minutes is a good idea either.
>>> Is it?
>> ..
>> 
>> Libata will retry only when the FLUSH returns an error,
>> and the next FLUSH will continue after the point where
>> the first attempt failed.
>> 
>> But if the drive can still auto-relocate sectors, then the
>> first FLUSH won't actually fail.. it will simply take longer
>> than normal.
>> 
>> A couple of those, and we're into the tens of seconds range
>> for time.
>> 
>> Still, it would be good to actually produce an error like that
>> to examine under controlled circumstances.
>> 
>> Hmm.. I had a drive here that gave symptoms like that.
>> Eventually, I discovered that drive had run out of relocatable
>> sectors, too.  Mmm.. I'll see if I can get it back (loaned it out)
>> and perhaps we can recreate this specific scenario on it..
> ..
> 
> I checked today, and that drive is no longer available.

Mine errored out again with exactly the same symptoms, this time after only
few days and with the "tunable" set to 2 sec. I got a warranty replacement
but haven't shipped this one yet. Let me know if you want it.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-09-01 13:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-08-26  0:32 MD/RAID: what's wrong with sector 1953519935? Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26  0:50 ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26  1:06   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26  1:24     ` NeilBrown
2009-08-26  1:31       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26  2:22         ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26  2:41           ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26  3:45             ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 10:34               ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 14:46                 ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 14:49                   ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-26 15:39                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-26 18:12                     ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27  0:07                       ` Mark Lord
2009-08-27  1:37                         ` Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27  2:33                       ` Robert Hancock
2009-08-27 21:22                       ` MD/RAID time out writing superblock Andrei Tanas
2009-08-27 21:57                         ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31  8:10                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:04                             ` Ric Wheeler
2009-08-31 12:20                               ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-07 11:44                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-07 11:59                                   ` Chris Webb
2009-09-09 12:02                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-14  7:41                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14  7:44                                         ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 12:48                                           ` Mark Lord
2009-09-14 13:05                                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:25                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-16 23:19                                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 13:29                                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:32                                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 13:37                                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:35                                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17 16:16                                                       ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 16:17                                                         ` Mark Lord
2009-09-18 17:05                                                           ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 10:26                                                             ` Chris Webb
2009-09-21 19:47                                                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-22  6:16                                                               ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-20 18:36                                                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-14 13:11                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 13:24                                             ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 14:02                                               ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2009-09-14 14:34                                                 ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 13:14                                         ` Gabor Gombas
2009-09-07 16:55                                   ` Allan Wind
2009-09-07 23:26                                     ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14  7:46                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-14 21:13                                         ` Thomas Fjellstrom
2009-09-14 22:23                                           ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-16 22:28                                 ` Chris Webb
2009-09-16 23:47                                   ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-17  0:34                                     ` Neil Brown
2009-09-17 12:00                                       ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 11:57                                     ` Chris Webb
2009-09-17 15:44                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-18 17:07                                         ` Chris Webb
2009-09-20 18:46                                         ` Robert Hancock
2009-09-21  0:02                                           ` Kyle Moffett
2009-09-17 13:35                                     ` Mark Lord
2009-09-17 15:47                                       ` Tejun Heo
2009-08-31 12:21                             ` Mark Lord
2009-08-31 23:45                               ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:07                                 ` Andrei Tanas [this message]
2009-09-01 13:15                                   ` Mark Lord
2009-09-01 13:30                                     ` Tejun Heo
2009-09-01 13:47                                       ` Ric Wheeler
2009-09-01 14:18                                         ` Andrei Tanas
2009-09-14  5:30                                           ` Marc Giger

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