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From: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Adrian Bunk <bunk@kernel.org>
Cc: Casey Schaufler <casey@schaufler-ca.com>,
	Simon Arlott <simon@fire.lp0.eu>,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
	Jan Engelhardt <jengelh@computergmbh.de>,
	Andreas Gruenbacher <agruen@suse.de>,
	Thomas Fricaccia <thomas_fricacci@yahoo.com>,
	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	James Morris <jmorris@namei.org>,
	Crispin Cowan <crispin@crispincowan.com>,
	Giacomo Catenazzi <cate@debian.org>,
	Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface)
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2007 18:03:37 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <64482.42947.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0710241636010.30120@woody.linux-foundation.org>


--- Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> > 
> > What I'm giving you is "Linus has decreed there can be LSMs other than 
> > SELinux."
> > 
> > Getting LSMs included should no longer be harder than for other 
> > parts of the kernel.
> 
> Well, despite my heart-felt feelings that we should support different 
> people in trying out different things, one of the issues is also that I'm 
> obviously not myself a security person. I can "decree" all I want, but in 
> the end, I really want the people *involved* to merge security stuff. 
> 
> Right now Chris Wrigt is the documented maintainer for LSM, and quite 
> frankly, I do not want to take it over. I really really really hope that
> people that are interested in security can work this thing out, and my 
> only requirement is that it doesn't end up being any kind of force-feeding 
> of opinions and ideas, since clearly there is tons of room for 
> disagreement in the area..
> 
> Do other people want to stand up and be "LSM maintainers" in the sense 
> that they also end up being informed members who can also stand up for new 
> modules and help merge them, rather than just push the existing one(s)? 
> Chris? Casey? Crispin?

Count me in.

> [ Ie there's the "core LSM hooks" on one side, but there's also the "what 
>   modules make any sense at all to merge?" on the other, and I really 
>   don't have the expertise to make any sensible judgements except for the 
>   pure "process" judgement that we should not hardcode things to just one 
>   module! ]
> 
> 		Linus
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Casey Schaufler
casey@schaufler-ca.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-10-25  1:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 141+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <167451.96128.qm@web38607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
2007-10-18  2:18 ` LSM conversion to static interface Linus Torvalds
2007-10-19 20:26   ` Andreas Gruenbacher
2007-10-19 20:40     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-20 11:05       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-20 22:57         ` James Morris
2007-10-21 22:59           ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-23  4:09           ` LSM conversion to static interface [revert patch] Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23  4:56             ` James Morris
2007-10-23  4:57               ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-23  5:16             ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23  9:10               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23  9:13                 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-23  9:14                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24  0:31               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2007-10-24  0:32                 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-24  5:06                 ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-24 11:50                   ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 12:55                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 18:11                       ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 18:51                         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 18:59                           ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 19:04                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:02                               ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 21:37                                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-24 21:51                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 22:02                                     ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-24 23:13                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-25  1:50                                   ` david
2007-10-25  3:50                                   ` Kyle Moffett
2007-10-24 21:42                                 ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:58                                 ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:04                                   ` David P. Quigley
2007-10-25 11:38                                 ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-24 20:18                           ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-24 20:46                             ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-24 21:29                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 22:31                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 22:58                           ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-24 23:32                             ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-24 23:42                               ` Linus Torvalds
2007-10-25  0:41                                 ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25  2:19                                   ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30  3:37                                   ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25  1:03                                 ` Casey Schaufler [this message]
2007-10-25  0:23                             ` Chris Wright
2007-10-25  0:35                               ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25  1:26                                 ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-25  1:41                                 ` Alan Cox
2007-10-25  2:11                                   ` david
2007-10-25 18:17                                   ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 22:21                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-10-26  3:45                                       ` david
2007-10-26  5:44                                         ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-27 18:29                                     ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 18:48                                       ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 19:05                                       ` Hua Zhong
2007-10-28 22:08                                   ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-28 22:50                                     ` Alan Cox
2007-11-26 20:42                                       ` serge
2007-10-28 23:55                                     ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-29  5:12                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-25  9:19                                 ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25 16:04                                   ` Ray Lee
2007-10-25 17:10                                     ` Arjan van de Ven
2007-10-30  9:41                                     ` Bernd Petrovitsch
2007-10-25  1:42                               ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-27 18:22                                 ` Pavel Machek
2007-10-28 19:42                                   ` Linux Security *Module* Framework Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 20:46                                     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30  3:23                                 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-30  8:40                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30  8:50                                     ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30  9:27                                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30  9:21                                     ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-10-25 11:44                           ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-25 23:09                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26  2:56                             ` Greg KH
2007-10-26  7:09                               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-26 15:54                                 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26  9:46                               ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-26 15:58                                 ` Greg KH
2007-10-26 16:32                                   ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-27 14:07                                   ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28  1:21                                     ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-26 23:26                                 ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-27 14:47                                   ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-27 17:31                                     ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28  0:55                                     ` eradicating out of tree modules (was: : Linux Security *Module* Framework) Adrian Bunk
2007-10-28  9:25                                       ` eradicating out of tree modules Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 12:01                                         ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 14:37                                           ` Stefan Richter
2007-10-28 14:59                                             ` Simon Arlott
2007-10-28 16:55                                             ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 18:51                                       ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-28 19:25                                         ` Adrian Bunk
2007-10-30  0:29                                           ` Tilman Schmidt
2007-10-30 13:11                                             ` linux-os (Dick Johnson)
2007-10-30 13:19                                               ` Xavier Bestel
2007-10-30 15:30                                               ` Greg KH
2007-10-29 23:51                               ` Out-of-tree modules [was: Linux Security *Module* Framework] Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30  0:46                                 ` Lee Revell
2007-10-30  1:19                                   ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-27 14:08                     ` Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface Tetsuo Handa
2007-11-05  6:42                       ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-23  9:13           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23  5:44         ` Giacomo Catenazzi
2007-10-23  8:55           ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23  9:14             ` Giacomo A. Catenazzi
2007-10-23  9:18               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:20             ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-23 15:28               ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-23 15:34                 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-25 10:23                   ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2007-10-19 21:07     ` James Morris
2007-10-22  1:12   ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 10:01 Linux Security *Module* Framework (Was: LSM conversion to static interface) Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 10:24 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-29 13:32   ` Peter Dolding
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-10-29 19:04 Rob Meijer
2007-10-29 19:41 ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-30  5:13   ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-30 18:42     ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 19:14       ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-30 19:50         ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-10-30 23:38       ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31  0:16         ` david
2007-10-31  2:21           ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31  3:43             ` Casey Schaufler
2007-10-31  5:08             ` david
2007-10-31  6:43             ` Crispin Cowan
2007-10-31  9:03               ` Peter Dolding
2007-10-31 10:10               ` Toshiharu Harada
2007-11-01  2:04                 ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01  2:20                   ` Casey Schaufler
2007-11-01  2:51                     ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-01  7:17                       ` Jan Engelhardt
2007-11-01 11:49                         ` David Newall
2007-11-04  1:28                           ` Peter Dolding
2007-11-05  6:56                       ` Andrew Morgan
2007-11-05 13:29                         ` Serge E. Hallyn
2007-10-29 20:27 ` Casey Schaufler

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