From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from bombadil.infradead.org (bombadil.infradead.org [198.137.202.133]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.subspace.kernel.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAD5C1B4223; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 06:54:24 +0000 (UTC) Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 ARC-Seal:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756191267; cv=none; b=Y/239iJuhGeJF8dbtWfVvyBcGWRo+XdUBO1azblTBNKpsRzzDNnuQbnDI1zCJVXiCUbqCUjHOeeg3YSlnIYQMsxtNiH3BEKCv8y9865khv7jh3tFPunPtBM7xdhk/feeWV/e611kqPDNQo+qtKcJhoRKMZf9XF+7KGoXFhe0CeQ= ARC-Message-Signature:i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=subspace.kernel.org; s=arc-20240116; t=1756191267; c=relaxed/simple; bh=GCXK9lBQxnpvP4CS3fac4UgL43PEtRvfp2/tBi5BrUQ=; h=Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Subject:To:Cc:References:From: In-Reply-To:Content-Type; b=mz7ByahBguz9hQ5kBF81X1fLkGABQmfJDIPJqxcLEKtLvyZUL1waqHbg0iBI+lYEy8DsVworGeCEVPFWM5t7N+16dmD2wneCigeRoN0YK+bi0dfO4tm4Fg2bZM4/Ee86NFnIbmTqNpjNlM1jjo+B8Rf32wQubA7JbZVyhMgDbf0= ARC-Authentication-Results:i=1; smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b=nQiZBbWD; arc=none smtp.client-ip=198.137.202.133 Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; spf=none smtp.mailfrom=infradead.org Authentication-Results: smtp.subspace.kernel.org; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=infradead.org header.i=@infradead.org header.b="nQiZBbWD" DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=infradead.org; s=bombadil.20210309; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding: Content-Type:In-Reply-To:From:References:Cc:To:Subject:MIME-Version:Date: Message-ID:Sender:Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description; bh=0yW+8sLG9IXtlq0I3N5zxQoGTczv6TkhG3cqXiKZ17w=; b=nQiZBbWDkRktGbLzVRD7OhGhIQ l3kBlUnbfStBlWa9HI8J87e/hUGTNPGpoTRv3+f02oaSvtzFVlX4AtJXihBWadiBg1s/o7i5O8Z/N Yljl9vrgGex8Dd1PDwUR4bp30VVsAssMEHK5o48ihUA2UO40dXYOolRe5dXCbGhd96W6R3k1S7gEs RwBBWzk7sIRh8KTqRX3SAdEblAmjQCwe4ii/wfmhVeuXf49xZDvebLvxwX8U1uGnY7pExklAe8kX6 BWwE0rPoHmARrie+DdlcpZTZRpJYve1kw+3C/AD29sYDj5AMJKsnAZzS6sDw1kU57KxneO7CEJ28N EZASG/rw==; Received: from [50.53.25.54] (helo=[192.168.254.17]) by bombadil.infradead.org with esmtpsa (Exim 4.98.2 #2 (Red Hat Linux)) id 1uqnZX-0000000AlSF-2P3K; Tue, 26 Aug 2025 06:54:23 +0000 Message-ID: <67d355fc-7ee9-4203-9578-095004c4a7e6@infradead.org> Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 23:54:22 -0700 Precedence: bulk X-Mailing-List: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org List-Id: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Subject: Re: [PATCH] Documentation: management-style: Correct "know" past participle To: Bagas Sanjaya , Linux Kernel Mailing List , Linux Documentation , Linux Kernel Workflows Cc: Jonathan Corbet , Fox Foster , Federico Vaga , =?UTF-8?Q?Jonathan_Neusch=C3=A4fer?= References: <20250826003437.7695-2-bagasdotme@gmail.com> Content-Language: en-US From: Randy Dunlap In-Reply-To: <20250826003437.7695-2-bagasdotme@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 8/25/25 5:34 PM, Bagas Sanjaya wrote: > Management style docs writes on people under a manager, where they know > the details better than the manager himself, in past perfect tense. Yet, > "know" is in infinitive form instead. > > Correct the verb form. > Hi Bagas, I don't know about the patch description/argument/justification, but the wording makes no sense to me... > Signed-off-by: Bagas Sanjaya > --- > Documentation/process/management-style.rst | 4 ++-- > 1 file changed, 2 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > index dfbc69bf49d435..1381b253b19ef4 100644 > --- a/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > +++ b/Documentation/process/management-style.rst > @@ -42,7 +42,7 @@ actually true. > The name of the game is to **avoid** having to make a decision. In > particular, if somebody tells you "choose (a) or (b), we really need you > to decide on this", you're in trouble as a manager. The people you > -manage had better know the details better than you, so if they come to > +manage had better known the details than you, so if they come to > you for a technical decision, you're screwed. You're clearly not > competent to make that decision for them. > > @@ -115,7 +115,7 @@ sure as hell shouldn't encourage them by promising them that what they > work on will be included. Make them at least think twice before they > embark on a big endeavor. > > -Remember: they'd better know more about the details than you do, and > +Remember: they'd better known more about the details than you do, and > they usually already think they have the answer to everything. The best > thing you can do as a manager is not to instill confidence, but rather a > healthy dose of critical thinking on what they do. > > base-commit: ee9a6691935490dc39605882b41b9452844d5e4e -- ~Randy