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From: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
To: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Cc: "Alice Ryhl" <aliceryhl@google.com>,
	"Miguel Ojeda" <ojeda@kernel.org>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"Gary Guo" <gary@garyguo.net>,
	"Björn Roy Baron" <bjorn3_gh@protonmail.com>,
	"Benno Lossin" <benno.lossin@proton.me>,
	"Andreas Hindborg" <a.hindborg@kernel.org>,
	"Trevor Gross" <tmgross@umich.edu>,
	"Danilo Krummrich" <dakr@kernel.org>,
	rust-for-linux@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] uaccess: rust: add strncpy_from_user
Date: Mon, 5 May 2025 12:23:52 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6819104b.050a0220.d2081.0b87@mx.google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2025050544-sneak-compactor-d701@gregkh>

On Mon, May 05, 2025 at 04:30:05PM +0200, Greg Kroah-Hartman wrote:
[...]
> > +
> > +/// Reads a nul-terminated string into `buf` and returns the length.
> > +///
> > +/// This reads from userspace until a NUL byte is encountered, or until `buf.len()` bytes have been
> > +/// read. Fails with [`EFAULT`] if a read happens on a bad address (some data may have been
> > +/// copied). When the end of the buffer is encountered, no NUL byte is added, so the string is
> > +/// *not* guaranteed to be NUL-terminated when `Ok(buf.len())` is returned.
> > +///
> > +/// # Guarantees
> > +///
> > +/// When this function returns `Ok(len)`, it is guaranteed that the first `len` of `buf` bytes are
> > +/// initialized and non-zero. Furthermore, if `len < buf.len()`, then `buf[len]` is a NUL byte.
> > +/// Unsafe code may rely on these guarantees.
> > +#[inline]
> > +#[expect(dead_code)]
> > +fn raw_strncpy_from_user(ptr: UserPtr, buf: &mut [MaybeUninit<u8>]) -> Result<usize> {
> 
[...]
> Also, it's not your fault, but we don't have any type of __user tag for
> data coming from userspace yet to track this type of thing?  The

I think the type `UserPtr` is supposed to track this information, i.e.
Rust can only get a `UserPtr` from an input from userspace, and of
course Rust code cannot treat `UserPtr` as a normal pointer. For
example, the following would fall because of this:

    pub fn foo(ptr: *mut u8, ...) {
        raw_strncpy_from_user(ptr, ...);
    }

Regards,
Boqun

> compiler (well sparse) can catch this type of thing in C, any hints on
> what we could do in Rust for the same type of guarantee (i.e. don't
> touch user data before it's been copied, and then we need to treat it as
> "unverified" but that's a different patch series...)
> 
> thanks,
> 
> greg k-h

  reply	other threads:[~2025-05-05 19:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-05 12:17 [PATCH v3 0/2] strncpy_from_user for Rust Alice Ryhl
2025-05-05 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] uaccess: rust: add strncpy_from_user Alice Ryhl
2025-05-05 14:30   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-05 19:23     ` Boqun Feng [this message]
2025-05-06  9:18     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-06 12:52       ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2025-05-06 13:30         ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-05 12:17 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] uaccess: rust: add UserSliceReader::strcpy_into_buf Alice Ryhl
2025-05-05 16:22   ` Danilo Krummrich
2025-05-06  9:10     ` Alice Ryhl
2025-05-05 12:21 ` [PATCH v3 0/2] strncpy_from_user for Rust Alice Ryhl

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