From: gus3 <musicman529@yahoo.com>
To: Szabolcs Szakacsits <szaka@ntfs-3g.org>,
Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:00:07 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <684252.68814.qm@web34508.mail.mud.yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080821051508.GB5706@disturbed>
--- On Wed, 8/20/08, Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com> wrote:
> Ok, I thought it might be the tiny log, but it didn't
> improve anything
> here when increased the log size, or the log buffer size.
>
> Looking at the block trace, I think elevator merging is
> somewhat busted. I'm
> seeing adjacent I/Os being dispatched without having been
> merged. e.g:
[snip]
> Also, CFQ appears to not be merging WRITE_SYNC bios or
> issuing them
> with any urgency. The result of this is that it stalls the
> XFS
> transaction subsystem by capturing all the log buffers in
> the
> elevator and not issuing them. e.g.:
[snip]
> The I/Os are merged, but there's still that 700ms delay
> before dispatch.
> i was looking at this a while back but didn't get to
> finishing it off.
> i.e.:
>
> http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2008-01/msg00151.html
> http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2008-01/msg00152.html
>
> I'll have a bit more of a look at this w.r.t to
> compilebench performance,
> because it seems like a similar set of problems that I was
> seeing back
> then...
I concur your observation, esp. w.r.t. XFS and CFQ clashing:
http://gus3.typepad.com/i_am_therefore_i_think/2008/07/finding-the-fas.html
CFQ is the default on most Linux systems AFAIK; for decent XFS performance one needs to switch to "noop" or "deadline". I wasn't sure if it was broken code, or simply base assumptions in conflict (XFS vs. CFQ). Your log output sheds light on the matter for me, thanks.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-08-21 6:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-08-20 2:45 [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 7:43 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20 8:22 ` Pekka Enberg
2008-08-20 18:47 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 16:13 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 21:25 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-20 21:39 ` Andrew Morton
2008-08-20 21:48 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 2:12 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 2:46 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 5:15 ` XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 6:00 ` gus3 [this message]
2008-08-21 6:14 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 7:00 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 8:53 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 9:33 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-21 17:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22 2:29 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25 1:59 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-25 4:32 ` Nick Piggin
2008-08-25 12:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2008-08-26 3:07 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-26 3:50 ` david
2008-08-27 1:20 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-27 21:54 ` david
2008-08-28 1:08 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 14:52 ` Chris Mason
2008-08-21 6:04 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 8:07 ` Aaron Carroll
2008-08-21 8:25 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 11:02 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 15:00 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-21 17:10 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 17:33 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-22 2:24 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-22 6:49 ` Martin Steigerwald
2008-08-22 12:44 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-23 12:52 ` Szabolcs Szakacsits
2008-08-21 11:53 ` Matthew Wilcox
2008-08-21 15:56 ` Dave Chinner
2008-08-21 12:51 ` [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system Chris Mason
2008-08-26 10:16 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-26 16:54 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-27 18:13 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-27 18:19 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 6:29 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29 8:40 ` Arnd Bergmann
2008-08-29 10:51 ` konishi.ryusuke
2008-08-29 11:04 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 10:45 ` Jörn Engel
2008-08-29 16:37 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-29 19:16 ` Jörn Engel
2008-09-01 12:25 ` Ryusuke Konishi
2008-08-20 9:47 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-21 4:57 ` Ryusuke Konishi
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-08-21 11:05 XFS vs Elevators (was Re: [PATCH RFC] nilfs2: continuous snapshotting file system) Martin Knoblauch
2008-08-21 15:59 ` Dave Chinner
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