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From: "Jean Delvare" <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: multinymous@gmail.com, davidz@redhat.com
Cc: "Richard Hughes" <hughsient@gmail.com>,
	"David Woodhouse" <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	"Dan Williams" <dcbw@redhat.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devel@laptop.org,
	sfr@canb.auug.org.au, len.brown@intel.com, greg@kroah.com,
	benh@kernel.crashing.org,
	"linux-thinkpad mailing list" <linux-thinkpad@linux-thinkpad.org>,
	"Pavel Machek" <pavel@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] Re: Battery class driver.
Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 08:59:40 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6DP6m926.1162281579.9733640.khali@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41840b750610281112q7790ecao774b3d1b375aca9b@mail.gmail.com>


On 10/28/2006, an anonymous coward wrote:
>On 10/28/06, David Zeuthen <davidz@redhat.com> wrote:
>> What about just prepending the unit to the 'threshold' file? Then user
>> space can expect the contents of said file to be of the form "%d %s". I
>> don't think that violates the "only one value per file" sysfs mantra.
>
>The tp_smapi battery driver did just this  ("16495 mW"). But I dropped
>it in a recent version when Pavel pointed out the rest of sysfs, hwmon
>included, uses undecorated integers.
>Consistency aside, it seems reasonable and convenient. You have to
>decree that writes to the attributes (where relevant) don't include
>the units, of course, so no one will expect the kernel to parse that.

But what value should then be written? One in an absolute aribtrary unit?
That would make reads and writes to the sysfs files inconsistent, in
direct violation of the sysfs standard. Or in the same unit read from
the file? It means that userspace must first read from the file, parse
the unit, then convert the value to be written. This doesn't match my
definition of "convenient".

>There's an issue here if a drunk driver decides to specify (say)
>capacity_remaining in mWh and capacity_last_full in mAa, which will
>confuse anyone comparing those attributest. So don't do that.
>
>Jean, what's your opinion on letting hwmon-ish attributes specify
>units as "%d %s" where these are hardware-dependent?

I fail to see any benefit in doing so, while I see several problems (see
above) and potential for confusion. So my opinion is: please don't do
that.

Thanks,
--
Jean

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-10-31  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <1161628327.19446.391.camel@pmac.infradead.org>
2006-10-23 19:18 ` Battery class driver Dan Williams
2006-10-23 19:58   ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-23 20:10     ` Roland Dreier
2006-10-23 20:48     ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-24  3:44       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-24 17:18       ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-25  7:42         ` [PATCH v2] " David Woodhouse
2006-10-25  9:54           ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-25 12:11             ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-25 14:42               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-25 22:25                 ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-25 23:39                   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-28 12:15                     ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-28 13:22                       ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-28 14:34                         ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-28 14:36                           ` David Woodhouse
2006-10-28 14:55                             ` David Zeuthen
2006-10-28 18:52                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-28 19:48                                 ` David Zeuthen
2006-10-28 21:10                                   ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-28 15:09                         ` David Zeuthen
2006-10-28 15:31                           ` David Zeuthen
2006-10-28 18:12                           ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-31  7:49                             ` Greg KH
2006-10-31 13:28                               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-11-01 19:31                                 ` Greg KH
2006-11-01 19:53                                   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-11-01 20:53                                     ` Greg KH
2006-11-01 23:55                                       ` [ltp] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-02  3:45                                         ` Greg KH
2006-11-02 17:49                                         ` Bill Davidsen
2006-11-02 19:19                                           ` Richard Hughes
2006-11-02 21:20                                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-03 12:46                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-03 15:13                                           ` Stefan Seyfried
2006-11-02 22:01                                         ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-03 13:12                                           ` U Kuehn
2006-11-05 20:52                                             ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-05 21:02                                               ` Jean Delvare
2006-11-01 21:27                                     ` Pavel Machek
2006-11-01 21:32                                       ` Richard Hughes
2006-10-31  7:59                             ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2006-10-31 13:42                               ` Shem Multinymous
2006-10-31 13:51                                 ` Xavier Bestel
2006-10-31 14:06                                   ` Shem Multinymous
2006-11-01 13:26                                     ` Richard Hughes
2006-11-01 13:54                                       ` David Woodhouse
2006-11-01 14:36                                         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-01 16:36                                           ` Shem Multinymous
2006-11-01 16:55                                             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-01 19:30                                       ` Greg KH
2006-11-02  7:52                                     ` Jean Delvare
2006-11-02  8:39                                       ` Richard Hughes
2006-11-02 13:54                                       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-02 17:52                                       ` Bill Davidsen
2006-11-02 19:26                                         ` Richard B. Johnson
2006-11-03 13:23                                           ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-11-03 14:20                                             ` Richard B. Johnson
2006-11-03 16:10                                               ` [ltp] " Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-10-28 18:55                           ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-28 19:53                             ` David Zeuthen
2006-10-28 21:05                               ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-28 21:54                                 ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2006-10-26  9:55                 ` [ltp] " FeRD
2006-10-28  5:12           ` Pavel Machek
2006-10-24  3:41     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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