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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Sergei Shtepa <sergei.shtepa@veeam.com>,
	hch@lst.de
Cc: "johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com" <johannes.thumshirn@wdc.com>,
	"koct9i@gmail.com" <koct9i@gmail.com>,
	"ming.lei@redhat.com" <ming.lei@redhat.com>,
	"josef@toxicpanda.com" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"steve@sk2.org" <steve@sk2.org>,
	"linux-block@vger.kernel.org" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Pavel Tide <Pavel.TIde@veeam.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_interposer - Block Layer Interposer
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 2020 11:14:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6bc5ff77-4977-a9bd-3fb8-ce35e1179b94@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b4f3ee74-58fd-52c8-ae60-f352758fb42a@suse.de>

On 12/11/20 11:03 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
> On 12/11/20 6:04 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 12/11/20 9:56 AM, Hannes Reinecke wrote:
>>> On 12/11/20 5:33 PM, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>> On 12/11/20 9:30 AM, Mike Snitzer wrote:
>>>>> While I still think there needs to be a proper _upstream_ consumer of
>>>>> blk_interposer as a condition of it going in.. I'll let others make the
>>>>> call.
>>>>
>>>> That's an unequivocal rule.
>>>>
>>>>> As such, I'll defer to Jens, Christoph and others on whether your
>>>>> minimalist blk_interposer hook is acceptable in the near-term.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think so, we don't do short term bandaids just to plan on
>>>> ripping that out when the real functionality is there. IMHO, the dm
>>>> approach is the way to go - it provides exactly the functionality that
>>>> is needed in an appropriate way, instead of hacking some "interposer"
>>>> into the core block layer.
>>>>
>>> Which is my plan, too.
>>>
>>> I'll be working with the Veeam folks to present a joint patchset
>>> (including the DM bits) for the next round.
>>
>> Just to be clear, core block additions for something that dm will
>> consume is obviously fine. Adding this as block layer functionality than
>> then exposes an application API for setting it up, tearing down, etc -
>> that is definitely NOT
>>
> That was never my intention.
> Any consumers of this thing would need to be in-kernel.
> If that was your concern.

Yep, that is/was indeed my concern!

-- 
Jens Axboe


  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-12 18:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-09 13:01 [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_interposer - Block Layer Interposer Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-09 13:01 ` [PATCH 1/3] " Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-09 13:01 ` [PATCH 2/3] block: blk_interposer - sample Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-09 14:36   ` Mike Snitzer
2020-12-10 15:54     ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-10 15:58       ` Mike Snitzer
2020-12-09 13:01 ` [PATCH 3/3] block: blk_interposer - sample config Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-09 13:51 ` [PATCH 0/3] block: blk_interposer - Block Layer Interposer Mike Snitzer
2020-12-10 14:58   ` Sergei Shtepa
2020-12-10 16:32     ` Mike Snitzer
2020-12-11 16:30       ` Mike Snitzer
2020-12-11 16:33         ` Jens Axboe
2020-12-11 16:56           ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-12-11 17:04             ` Jens Axboe
2020-12-11 18:03               ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-12-12 18:14                 ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2020-12-15  6:51             ` Bob Liu
2020-12-15  7:41               ` Hannes Reinecke
2020-12-15 15:57               ` Sergei Shtepa

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