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From: James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>
To: Leo Yan <leo.yan@arm.com>
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <Alexandru.Elisei@arm.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <Anshuman.Khandual@arm.com>,
	Rob Herring <Rob.Herring@arm.com>,
	Suzuki Poulose <Suzuki.Poulose@arm.com>,
	Robin Murphy <Robin.Murphy@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-perf-users@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] perf: arm_spe: Add barrier before enabling profiling buffer
Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2025 12:22:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6f55d9ba-02c5-4075-a751-018b1521ddd4@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250704140443.GH1039028@e132581.arm.com>



On 04/07/2025 3:04 pm, Leo Yan wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 01, 2025 at 04:31:57PM +0100, James Clark wrote:
>> DEN0154 states that PMBPTR_EL1 must not be modified while the profiling
>> buffer is enabled. Ensure that enabling the buffer comes after setting
>> PMBPTR_EL1 by inserting an isb().
>>
>> This only applies to guests for now, but in future versions of the
>> architecture the PE will be allowed to behave in the same way.
>>
>> Fixes: d5d9696b0380 ("drivers/perf: Add support for ARMv8.2 Statistical Profiling Extension")
>> Signed-off-by: James Clark <james.clark@linaro.org>
>> ---
>>   drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c | 1 +
>>   1 file changed, 1 insertion(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c b/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> index 3efed8839a4e..6235ca7ecd48 100644
>> --- a/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> +++ b/drivers/perf/arm_spe_pmu.c
>> @@ -537,6 +537,7 @@ static void arm_spe_perf_aux_output_begin(struct perf_output_handle *handle,
>>   	limit += (u64)buf->base;
>>   	base = (u64)buf->base + PERF_IDX2OFF(handle->head, buf);
>>   	write_sysreg_s(base, SYS_PMBPTR_EL1);
>> +	isb();
> 
> I know that you and Alexandru have discussed whether the isb() should
> be placed here or after the out_write_limit label. I should have engaged
> in the discussion earlier. Sorry for raising the question now.
> 
> My understanding is that isb() is not only for synchronizing the write
> to PMBPTR_EL1. It also serves as a context synchronization event
> between any other SPE register writes and the write to
> SYS_PMBLIMITR_EL1.
> 
> Let me give an example (perhaps a rare one): if we use perf snapshot
> mode or the AUX pause/resume mode, it's possible that the flow does
> not trigger an interrupt via overflow. Instead, the sequence might
> look like this:
> 
>    arm_spe_pmu_stop()
>      `> arm_spe_pmu_start()
>           `> arm_spe_perf_aux_output_begin()
> 
> In this case, to ensure that all SPE system registers are properly
> written to the hardware, the safest approach is to always execute isb()
> just before writing to SYS_PMBLIMITR_EL1. (In other words, after the
> label out_write_limit).
> 
> Thanks,
> Leo
> 

I think the point is that any write that enables the buffer must come 
last, but not necessarily all writes. And not all paths in 
arm_spe_perf_aux_output_begin() enable it so the isb() was only added on 
the path that does.

I couldn't see an issue with your example, are you saying 
arm_spe_pmu_stop() could call arm_spe_pmu_start()? It doesn't call it 
directly. Or do you mean the aux pause/resume thing can cause a 
arm_spe_pmu_start() from any point in time? If that was true then it 
doesn't matter where the isb() is because you can never be sure it will 
be before the write.

James

>>   out_write_limit:
>>   	write_sysreg_s(limit, SYS_PMBLIMITR_EL1);
>>
>> -- 
>> 2.34.1
>>
>>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2025-07-07 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-01 15:31 [PATCH 0/3] perf: arm_spe: Add support for SPE VM interface James Clark
2025-07-01 15:31 ` [PATCH 1/3] perf: arm_spe: Add barrier before enabling profiling buffer James Clark
2025-07-04 14:04   ` Leo Yan
2025-07-07 11:22     ` James Clark [this message]
2025-07-08 14:40   ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-09-08 14:48     ` James Clark
2025-09-08 13:41   ` Will Deacon
2025-09-08 13:54     ` James Clark
2025-09-08 13:57       ` Will Deacon
2025-09-08 14:35         ` James Clark
2025-07-01 15:31 ` [PATCH 2/3] perf: arm_spe: Disable buffer before writing to PMBPTR_EL1 or PMBSR_EL1 James Clark
2025-07-04 15:50   ` Leo Yan
2025-07-07 11:39     ` James Clark
2025-07-07 15:37       ` Leo Yan
2025-07-08 14:45         ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-07-09 10:08         ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-07-14  8:58           ` Leo Yan
2025-07-21 13:20             ` James Clark
2025-07-21 15:21               ` Leo Yan
2025-07-22 14:46                 ` James Clark
2025-07-30  9:50                   ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-07-09 10:09   ` Alexandru Elisei
2025-09-08 14:01   ` Will Deacon
2025-07-01 15:31 ` [PATCH 3/3] perf: arm_spe: Add support for SPE VM interface James Clark
2025-08-01 13:28 ` [PATCH 0/3] " Alexandru Elisei
2025-08-04 16:00   ` James Clark
2025-08-04 21:49     ` Suzuki K Poulose

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