From: Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: "linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
"Alexander Viro" <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
"Ingo Molnar" <mingo@redhat.com>,
"Peter Zijlstra" <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Serge Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@canonical.com>,
"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"Kees Cook" <keescook@chromium.org>,
"Christoph Lameter" <cl@linux.com>,
"Serge E. Hallyn" <serge.hallyn@ubuntu.com>,
"Andy Shevchenko" <andriy.shevchenko@linux.intel.com>,
"Richard W.M. Jones" <rjones@redhat.com>,
"Iago López Galeiras" <iago@endocode.com>,
"Chris Metcalf" <cmetcalf@ezchip.com>,
"Andy Lutomirski" <luto@kernel.org>, "Jann Horn" <jann@thejh.net>,
"open list:FILESYSTEMS (VFS and infrastructure)"
<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
"open list:CAPABILITIES" <linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC 01/18] capabilities: track actually used capabilities
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2016 20:45:59 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <6fd9daef-c9ed-9acb-53b8-438add7cdee8@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWM7JupEWeyT5OUDozGG1-XMVpAX+Ah5QwiX+G0VyveDA@mail.gmail.com>
On 06/13/16 20:32, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 13, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Topi Miettinen <toiwoton@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Track what capabilities are actually used and present the current
>> situation in /proc/self/status.
>
> What for?
Excerpt from the cover letter:
"There are many basic ways to control processes, including capabilities,
cgroups and resource limits. However, there are far fewer ways to find out
useful values for the limits, except blind trial and error.
This patch series attempts to fix that by giving at least a nice starting
point from the actual maximum values. I looked where each limit is checked
and added a call to limit bump nearby.
Capabilities
[RFC 01/18] capabilities: track actually used capabilities
Currently, there is no way to know which capabilities are actually used.
Even
the source code is only implicit, in-depth knowledge of each capability must
be used when analyzing a program to judge which capabilities the program
will
exercise."
Should I perhaps cite some of this in the commit?
>
> What is the intended behavior on fork()? Whatever the intended
> behavior is, there should IMO be a selftest for it.
>
> --Andy
>
The capabilities could be tracked from three points of daemon
initialization sequence onwards:
fork()
setpcap()
exec()
fork() case would be logical as the /proc entry is per task. But if you
consider the tools to set the capabilities (for example systemd unit
files), there can be between fork() and exec() further preparations
which need more capabilities than the program itself needs.
setpcap() is probably the real point after which we are interested if
the capabilities are enough.
The amount of setup between setpcap() and exec() is probably very low.
-Topi
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-13 20:46 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-06-13 19:44 [RFC 00/18] Present useful limits to user Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 01/18] capabilities: track actually used capabilities Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-13 20:45 ` Topi Miettinen [this message]
2016-06-13 21:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-13 21:48 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 02/18] cgroup_pids: track maximum pids Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 21:12 ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-13 21:29 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 21:33 ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-13 21:59 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 22:09 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-17 20:11 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 1:09 ` Tejun Heo
2016-07-19 16:59 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-07-19 18:13 ` Tejun Heo
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 03/18] memcontrol: present maximum used memory also for cgroup-v2 Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 7:01 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-14 15:47 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 16:04 ` Johannes Weiner
2016-06-14 17:15 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-16 10:27 ` Michal Hocko
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 04/18] device_cgroup: track and present accessed devices Topi Miettinen
2016-06-17 15:22 ` Serge E. Hallyn
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 05/18] limits: track and present RLIMIT_NOFILE actual max Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 20:40 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-13 21:13 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 21:16 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-14 15:21 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 06/18] limits: present RLIMIT_CPU and RLIMIT_RTTIMER current status Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 9:14 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 07/18] limits: track RLIMIT_FSIZE actual max Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 08/18] limits: track RLIMIT_DATA " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 09/18] limits: track RLIMIT_CORE " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 10/18] limits: track RLIMIT_STACK " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 11/18] limits: track and present RLIMIT_NPROC " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 22:27 ` Jann Horn
2016-06-14 15:40 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 23:15 ` Jann Horn
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 13/18] limits: track RLIMIT_AS " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 14/18] limits: track RLIMIT_SIGPENDING " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 14:50 ` Oleg Nesterov
2016-06-14 15:51 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 15/18] limits: track RLIMIT_MSGQUEUE " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-17 19:52 ` Doug Ledford
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 16/18] limits: track RLIMIT_NICE " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 17/18] limits: track RLIMIT_RTPRIO " Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 19:44 ` [RFC 18/18] proc: present VM_LOCKED memory in /proc/self/maps Topi Miettinen
2016-06-13 20:43 ` Kees Cook
2016-06-13 20:52 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-14 19:03 ` [RFC 00/18] Present useful limits to user Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-06-14 19:46 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-15 14:47 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2016-06-18 14:45 ` Konstantin Khlebnikov
2016-06-19 6:38 ` Topi Miettinen
2016-06-20 17:37 ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
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