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From: Reinette Chatre <reinette.chatre@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2026 20:17:19 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <71099958-1ddf-40dc-8a3c-aa13d0c56fee@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e8530c71-fde2-4522-8b46-a24efb13b681@amd.com>

Hi Babu,

On 4/20/26 5:40 PM, Moger, Babu wrote:
> 
> We already discussed moving back to the default group on every mode
> switch. Doing so here would once again cause extra MSR writes on
> each mode transition, which is undesirable.
> 

Needing to avoid extra MSR writes in resctrl is not so absolute. Consider, for
example, how resctrl initializes default allocations when a new resource group is
created. resctrl aims to initialize with sane defaults and the user is expected to
follow with desired allocations.

I am not against optimizing, I just want to be careful with such general statements.

Considering your proposal in https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/39e0c786-cc35-4555-bfb9-ff7cd758c423@amd.com/:

I do not think we should make info/kernel_mode read-only. If I understand correctly
doing so would accommodate AMD PLZA but it ignores the discussions on how resctrl could
support MPAM ... or do you perhaps have proposal on how MPAM can be supported when considering
your proposal? Even if you do not want to consider MPAM - what if the PLZA_PQR register's
scope becomes per-CPU in the next version of AMD PLZA?

The idea behind info/kernel_mode is that the active mode it identifies indicates which
configuration files exist to configure the active mode. Since the mode may not always
depend on global configuration, for which info/kernel_mode_assignment was created, but instead
rely on per-resource group files, I do not see how resctrl can build on a read-only
info/kernel_mode backed by a mode and group change via info/kernel_mode_assignment.
Specifically, MPAM support may not use info/kernel_mode_assignment at all.
Instead, MPAM may use something like described in https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/aYyxAPdTFejzsE42@e134344.arm.com/

Could we perhaps consider dropping info/kernel_mode_assignment entirely for
AMD PLZA's global allocations? Similar to what you suggest, the mode and
group assignment could be done via the info/kernel_mode file instead?

Thinking about this more since the CPUs allocation is global, these could *theoretically*
be included also (but see later).
This could mean that "kernel_mode_cpus" and "kernel_mode_cpus_list" could be dropped?
Although, this may complicate the interface since user space may want a convenient way
to modify just CPUs independently from needing to repeat the mode and group every time.

Consider, for example:

# echo "global_assign_ctrl_assign_mon_per_cpu:group=ctrl1/mon1/;cpus_list=5-8" > info/kernel_mode

Having named fields (a) makes this extensible, (b) output does not need to be split among files,
and (c) "inherit_ctrl_and_mon" can continue to be supported.

The named fields could be made optional, if group is omitted then it will become the
default resource group, and if cpus/cpus_list is omitted then it will default to all CPUs.
This may not be intuitive since a user may expect that not mentioning a field means
that the field is left untouched. Have you considered this scenario in your proposal?

As an alternative the group could be made a required field and "kernel_mode_cpus"/"kernel_mode_cpuslist"
can stay? This may be the simplest approach.

Output could still use [] to indicate the active mode that includes its properties.
I find to be more intuitive interface where output more closely matches input.

Reinette

  reply	other threads:[~2026-04-21  3:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 50+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-12 20:36 [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 01/16] fs/resctrl: Add kernel mode (kmode) data structures and arch hook Babu Moger
2026-03-24 22:51   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 18:41     ` Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 02/16] fs, x86/resctrl: Add architecture routines for kernel mode initialization Babu Moger
2026-03-24 22:53   ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 19:10     ` Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 03/16] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode file to show kernel mode options Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 04/16] x86/resctrl: Support Privilege-Level Zero Association (PLZA) Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 05/16] x86/resctrl: Initialize supported kernel modes when CPUID reports PLZA Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 06/16] resctrl: Introduce kmode static key enable/disable helpers Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 07/16] x86/resctrl: Add data structures and definitions for PLZA configuration Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 08/16] x86/resctrl: Add per-CPU and per-task kernel mode state Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 09/16] x86,fs/resctrl: Add the functionality to configure PLZA Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 10/16] x86/resctrl: Add PLZA state tracking and context switch handling Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 11/16] fs/resctrl: Add write handler for info/kernel_mode Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 12/16] fs/resctrl: Add info/kernel_mode_assignment to show kernel-mode rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 13/16] fs/resctrl: Add write interface for kernel_mode_assignment Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:36 ` [PATCH v2 14/16] fs/resctrl: Update kmode configuration when cpu_mask changes Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 15/16] x86/resctrl: Refactor show_rdt_tasks() to support PLZA tasks Babu Moger
2026-03-12 20:37 ` [PATCH v2 16/16] fs/resctrl: Add per-task kmode enable support via rdtgroup Babu Moger
2026-03-24  6:15 ` [PATCH v2 00/16] fs,x86/resctrl: Add kernel-mode (e.g., PLZA) support to the resctrl subsystem Askar Safin
2026-03-24 22:51 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-26 17:12   ` Babu Moger
2026-03-27 22:11     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-03-30 18:46       ` Babu Moger
2026-03-31 22:24         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-06 22:45           ` Babu Moger
2026-04-07 17:48             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08  1:01               ` Babu Moger
2026-04-08  4:45                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08 20:45                   ` Babu Moger
2026-04-08 21:24                     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-08 23:07                       ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-08 23:41                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 17:19                           ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-09 17:26                             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 18:05                               ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-09 20:50                                 ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-09 23:42                                   ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-10  3:41                                     ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-10 22:52                                       ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-20 19:38                                       ` Babu Moger
2026-04-20 22:03                                         ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-20 22:59                                           ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-20 23:34                                             ` Reinette Chatre
2026-04-21  0:40                                               ` Moger, Babu
2026-04-21  3:17                                                 ` Reinette Chatre [this message]
2026-04-21  0:03                                             ` Luck, Tony
2026-04-21  0:21                                               ` Reinette Chatre

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