From: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
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Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector
Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2017 16:43:43 +0000 (UTC) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <718035530.20074.1511369023901.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrX84s-WEa5osP0t6CKh8C4Wj7-ARNMpaSp8Eop1_2ycLA@mail.gmail.com>
----- On Nov 22, 2017, at 10:28 AM, Andy Lutomirski luto@amacapital.net wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Mathieu Desnoyers
> <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com> wrote:
>> ----- On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Andi Kleen andi@firstfloor.org wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 09:18:38AM -0500, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Following changes based on a thorough coding style and patch changelog
>>>> review from Thomas Gleixner and Peter Zijlstra, I'm respinning this
>>>> series for another RFC.
>>>>
>>> My suggestion would be that you also split out the opv system call.
>>> That seems to be main contention point currently, and the restartable
>>> sequences should be useful without it.
>>
>> I consider rseq to be incomplete and a pain to use in various scenarios
>> without cpu_opv.
>>
>> About the contention point you refer to:
>>
>> Using vDSO as an example of how things should be done is just wrong: the
>> vDSO interaction with debugger instruction single-stepping is broken,
>> as I detailed in my previous email.
>>
>
> If anyone ever reports that as a problem, I'll gladly fix it in the
> kernel. That's doable without an ABI change. If rseq-like things
> started breaking single-stepping, we can't just fix it in the kernel.
Very true. And rseq does break both line-level and instruction-level
single-stepping.
>
> Also, there is one and only one vclock_gettime. Debuggers can easily
> special-case it. For all I know, they already do.
As my tests demonstrate, they don't. clock_gettime() vDSO currently
breaks instruction-level single-stepping (istep) with gdb. I'll
forward you the writeup I did on that a few days ago.
Thanks,
Mathieu
--
Mathieu Desnoyers
EfficiOS Inc.
http://www.efficios.com
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Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-21 14:18 [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 01/22] uapi headers: Provide types_32_64.h Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 02/22] rseq: Introduce restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 03/22] arm: Add restartable sequences support Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 04/22] arm: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 05/22] x86: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 06/22] x86: Wire up restartable sequence system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 07/22] powerpc: Add support for restartable sequences Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 08/22] powerpc: Wire up restartable sequences system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 09/22] sched: Implement push_task_to_cpu Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v4 10/22] cpu_opv: Provide cpu_opv system call Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 11/22] x86: Wire up " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 12/22] powerpc: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 13/22] arm: " Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 14/22] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 15:17 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 16:46 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v3 15/22] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 15:34 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 17:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:40 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 21:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 21:24 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 21:44 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 19:38 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-23 21:16 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 21:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-23 22:53 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 8:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-23 8:57 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-24 14:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-24 13:55 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 16/22] rseq: selftests: arm: workaround gcc asm size guess Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 15:39 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 17/22] Fix: membarrier: add missing preempt off around smp_call_function_many Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 18/22] membarrier: selftest: Test private expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v7 19/22] powerpc: membarrier: Skip memory barrier in switch_mm() Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v5 20/22] membarrier: Document scheduler barrier requirements Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:18 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v2 21/22] membarrier: provide SHARED_EXPEDITED command Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 14:19 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 22/22] membarrier: selftest: Test shared expedited cmd Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 17:21 ` [RFC PATCH for 4.15 v12 00/22] Restartable sequences and CPU op vector Andi Kleen
2017-11-21 22:05 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 22:59 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 12:36 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-22 15:28 ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-11-22 16:43 ` Mathieu Desnoyers [this message]
2017-11-22 18:10 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-22 19:32 ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-11-22 19:37 ` Will Deacon
2017-11-23 21:15 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 22:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 23:01 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 23:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-24 0:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-24 14:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-11-23 21:13 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-23 21:49 ` Andi Kleen
2017-11-21 22:19 ` [PATCH update for 4.15 1/3] selftests: lib.mk: Introduce OVERRIDE_TARGETS Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-21 22:22 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:16 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 22:19 ` [PATCH update for 4.15 2/3] cpu_opv: selftests: Implement selftests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:20 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-21 22:19 ` [PATCH update for 4.15 3/3] rseq: selftests: Provide self-tests (v4) Mathieu Desnoyers
2017-11-22 15:23 ` Shuah Khan
2017-11-22 16:31 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
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